EJedi Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Hello I have female 60 sniper, I will able to romance with Vaylin? (dunno its possible or not) Because I was able to romance with Lana Thanks in advance Vaylin's version of romance is to kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing_Shines Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Fixed it. No, you didn't. She deliberately lets the Outlander escape twice and undermines her brother constantly. She was defeated by her mother in lightsaber combat exactly once. Hardly makes her a complete failure. Arcann, on the other hand, has been defeated in two separate duels with the Outlander, who he imprisoned instead of outright killed because...reasons? He lost the Gravestone, which was parked half a mile outside one of his spires, lost numerous ships from the Eternal Fleet, inadvertently aided the Outlander in the lower city with his announcements, burned his own planets in a tantrum and ordered his own elite guard to kill each other after already wiping out his order of Force seers. He works with criminal cults who undermine his own authority and multiple times allows the Outlander to land on Zakuul to see what happens, only to then whine about the results. He is a complete failure. He's the male version of Admiral Daala. Every single decision he makes is the wrong one, unless his goal is to appear weak and foolish right up until the moment he tumbles down a reactor shaft. Edited February 19, 2016 by Nothing_Shines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 No, you didn't. She deliberately lets the Outlander escape twice and undermines her brother constantly. She was defeated by her mother in lightsaber combat exactly once. Hardly makes her a complete failure. Arcann, on the other hand, has been defeated in two separate duels with the Outlander, who he imprisoned instead of outright killed because...reasons? He lost the Gravestone, which was parked half a mile outside one of his spires, lost numerous ships from the Eternal Fleet, inadvertently aided the Outlander in the lower city with his announcements, burned his own planets in a tantrum and ordered his own elite guard to kill each other after already wiping out his order of Force seers. He works with criminal cults who undermine his own authority and multiple times allows the Outlander to land on Zakuul to see what happens, only to then whine about the results. He is a complete failure. He's the male version of Admiral Daala. Every single decision he makes is the wrong one, unless his goal is to appear weak and foolish right up until the moment he tumbles down a reactor shaft. She stupidly let the outlander escape because she's incompotent and crazy, she kills her own troops, risks killing off a shiz ton of Zakuulian citizens/factories/buildings simply because she's to lazy to walk towards the Outlander. She stupidly goes into a lightsaber fight with Senya when she's trained int he force (It's like the Inquisitor duelling Arcaan instead of standing back an- Oh...). Arcaan has fought the Outlander once and can only lose if the Outlander gets outside help from the guy that eats planets for breakfast, if the Outlander doesn't accept help, Arcaan kicks their ***. He coudn't find a ship that the game basically tells you you didn't find by mere accident (Either Valkorion or this destiny crap every KOFTE character moans on about). How is losing ships to the Gravestones OP canon a sign of incompetence? How again does his announcement aid the Outlander? It only makes people know what you look like and call security on you. Burned his own planets to both lure out and scare the alliance. The Sions are pretty much worthless due to their loyalty to 'destiny'. He let the lower city do what they will because he doesn't percieve them as much of a threat, unless the cult (Who he has no reason to believe are undermining his authority) tells him anything of worth. The outlander access Zakuul through the undercity because that very place is policed by the people who are now basically under the control of the Outlander's ally, Scorpio. Which he does not know about. He isn't a failure, he's just a envious and ambitious man who is struggling to keep his grip on the control he sacrificed his family for. Yep, he's had moments where he did the wrong thing, but that doesn't make him a 'complete failure'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nothing_Shines Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) She stupidly let the outlander escape because she's incompotent and crazy, she kills her own troops, risks killing off a shiz ton of Zakuulian citizens/factories/buildings simply because she's to lazy to walk towards the Outlander. She stupidly goes into a lightsaber fight with Senya when she's trained int he force (It's like the Inquisitor duelling Arcaan instead of standing back an- Oh...). Arcaan has fought the Outlander once and can only lose if the Outlander gets outside help from the guy that eats planets for breakfast, if the Outlander doesn't accept help, Arcaan kicks their ***. He coudn't find a ship that the game basically tells you you didn't find by mere accident (Either Valkorion or this destiny crap every KOFTE character moans on about). How is losing ships to the Gravestones OP canon a sign of incompetence? How again does his announcement aid the Outlander? It only makes people know what you look like and call security on you. Burned his own planets to both lure out and scare the alliance. The Sions are pretty much worthless due to their loyalty to 'destiny'. He let the lower city do what they will because he doesn't percieve them as much of a threat, unless the cult (Who he has no reason to believe are undermining his authority) tells him anything of worth. The outlander access Zakuul through the undercity because that very place is policed by the people who are now basically under the control of the Outlander's ally, Scorpio. Which he does not know about. He isn't a failure, he's just a envious and ambitious man who is struggling to keep his grip on the control he sacrificed his family for. Yep, he's had moments where he did the wrong thing, but that doesn't make him a 'complete failure'. You can lie and say she didn't deliberately let the Outlander escape to undermine Arcann, but it's plainly obvious that's what she did. Her mother barely defeated her in a single duel. Arcann lost to the Outlander in the scion temple and then again in the control tower. The outlander gets wounded and Arcann gets tossed down a well. He lost. The scions can see the future. He didn't like they could see he was going to fail, so he killed them. Sounds like a loser all around to me. He's destined to fail. The scions said nothing of Vaylin. His announcement about the Outlander is what gets the cult/criminals to lead the outlander to the Lady of Sorrows. And if he can't see that assigning criminals and cultists who worship a death god to police the lower levels of his own capital is stupid, well, stupid is as stupid does. The gravestone was within walking distance of the spire and not only didn't Arcann find it, he lost it to a crew of five and then couldn't even take it out with the entire eternal fleet at his disposal. Then he loses it again after having it dead to rights locked down in a shadow port. Had he just destroyed the ship in the dock instead of going down in person to monologue and try to turn the outlander, the gravestone would have been the Outlander's tomb. He kills his own people constantly, now on a planetary scale, for his own failures and it's lampshaded that his doing that was an enormous blunder that only drove more people to the Outlander's side. And this after he's lost at least six star fortresses in the occupied territories to a single two-person strike team. Instead of sending all of his knights to take out the outlander, he always sends them in pairs, then acts shocked when they can't kill the greatest fighter in the galaxy. His solution? Tell them to fight eachother to the death so they'll be better motivated in the future. LOLWUT? Even his psycho sister thought that was a stupid idea. The guy is a clown. His sister is insane, but she's not stupid. He's both insane AND stupid. If you want to sleep with the guy, go for it. I hope you get your chance. His six pack abs and modulated voice isn't going to make up for being made of fail. Oh, ****! What about the launch trailer? He's the one crippled during the invasion campaign, not his brother. He's the one who gets baited by his father to call on the dark side and attempt an assassination and then he ends up killing his only true ally, his brother, by mistake! F A I L. He can't even try to usurp the throne alone the second time he tries and has to try an me cajole the outlander to do it for him. Arcann is a bigger joke than Executor Sedris or hell, pretty much any random big bad from the EU or Legends of whatever. It's like the writers found the Evil Overlord list and did the exact opposite of everything it told them about how to be a successful villain. Seriously. Google it, read it, and tell me you can't see Arcann breaking every single one of those rules. Edited February 19, 2016 by Nothing_Shines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutGrndZero Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Yeah, SWTOR (and the rest of the franchise) is based on an insane war between two splinter groups. That's stable and sensible. So, since you dismissed my post with your misandry, how do you explain Bioware setting up dissent between Arcann and Vaylin? It's misandry, I tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 No, you didn't. She deliberately lets the Outlander escape twice LMAO what version of the story were you watching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFacelessOne Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 LMAO what version of the story were you watching? Well, the first time on Zakuul when you flee with Lana (Chapter 3). In my opinion true. Second time on the asylum is ... debatable. But remember: In Chapter 2 you see her when you're in the throne room. I don't think that this just was a carbonited fever dream like the other things you see in Chapter 2, i think that your "spirit" was really there and Vaylin did see you. She has plans, like every good Sith. Plans which diddn't involve her brother at all. And my female Sith-Sorc approves! I want her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codedrago Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 LMAO what version of the story were you watching? The version where Darth Marr is Mr T and Valkorion is the flying spaghetti monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The version where Darth Marr is Mr T and Valkorion is the flying spaghetti monster. I pity the Jedi fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRou Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 yeah we can romance vaylin ... on the near future ... let's hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katano Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Vaylin would make a good romance for pure darkside characters, especially since Jaesa is unlikely to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutGrndZero Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Vaylin would make a good romance for pure darkside characters, especially since Jaesa is unlikely to return. I don't think they are getting rid of any romances, that would piss people who romanced Dark Jaesa off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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