Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Does anyone else find that outlander trailer odd? Valkorian and everything there looks REALLY nice and the outlander looks like a saturday morning cartoon. It's just off. I like the updated quality, but it'd be nice if they allowed a 1 time free customization for our characters if they are going to be increasing the texture resolutions and poly counts on NPCs Here's some screenshots that show my point Valkorian - https://torcommunity.com/images/kofe/swtor_kotfe_screenshot_03.jpg Outlander - https://torcommunity.com/images/kofe/swtor_kotfe_screenshot_06.jpg Even the new companions look great - https://torcommunity.com/images/kofe/swtor_kotfe_screenshot_18.jpg Edited August 10, 2015 by Mynden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kantaso Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yep there is a big difference between them, the Outlander looks like the work of an apprentice instead of the other ones that looks like they were done by a professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yep there is a big difference between them, the Outlander looks like the work of an apprentice instead of the other ones that looks like they were done by a professional. It really does stand out in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuspectDown Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 The outlander is just a generic character, you can customize him/her to look how you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuzluPasta Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yep there is a big difference between them, the Outlander looks like the work of an apprentice instead of the other ones that looks like they were done by a professional. It is because character customizations are really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleonora Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It is because character customizations are really bad. Basically this lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 The outlander is just a generic character, you can customize him/her to look how you want. You're completely missing the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuspectDown Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 You're completely missing the point No, I am not. Armor detail isn't much different, and as for the faces, one has more textures because he is older. I'm not missing the point, you're just making a moll hill out of an ant hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAVM Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 All my characters look way better than that JK they used in the trailer. I'm guessing a 5 year old kid of one of the devs went into the character creator and that's what Bioware rolled with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionflash Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 You've got to look at some of the more details Complextion options. I too looked at the new models in KotFE empire and then looked back at some of my characters and noticed that they are a bit bland. I'm not at home, but recently I edited my Wrath to look a bit more unique and went for the more detailed hair styles. The issue for The Outlander in the trailer and those pictures is that he looks very plain and generic. White guy with a scar on his eye. Obviously the new NPC models have more geometry (what is it called? Higher resolution? High-detail?) than the character creation, but there are a few things you can do to make your character more on the level with these new NPCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 No, I am not. Armor detail isn't much different, and as for the faces, one has more textures because he is older. I'm not missing the point, you're just making a moll hill out of an ant hill. Nope, the resolution of the textures is higher. They've come out and said everything post KOTFE will have updated graphics. And that armor detail is MUCH higher...mostly the resolution of the textures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec_Fortescue Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 it is not new graphics. it's just new models and objects having sharper and higher res textures and more detail. They are made rather exclusively for new characters. Notice, that unlike almost every NPC in the game Valkorion, Lana etc. aren't sharing faces and hair with other npcs in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmbuddah Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Nope, the resolution of the textures is higher. They've come out and said everything post KOTFE will have updated graphics. And that armor detail is MUCH higher...mostly the resolution of the textures Hmm, no wonder the videos are all 15-20 fps. With this god awful engine, better graphics are a horrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 it is not new graphics. it's just new models and objects having sharper and higher res textures and more detail. They are made rather exclusively for new characters. Notice, that unlike almost every NPC in the game Valkorion, Lana etc. aren't sharing faces and hair with other npcs in the game. That is updated graphics. By definition. Not the same thing as a new engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuspectDown Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Nope, the resolution of the textures is higher. They've come out and said everything post KOTFE will have updated graphics. And that armor detail is MUCH higher...mostly the resolution of the textures It's impossible to compare those two screenshots and say without a shadow of a doubt that the Outlander is wearing a lower-res armor model. One is a closeup shot, the other is not. Squinting at the Outlander model, specifically the belt, it is not low res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuspectDown Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Hmm, no wonder the videos are all 15-20 fps. With this god awful engine, better graphics are a horrible idea. Actually, higher resolution character models won't see a huge hit, the game is CPU bound by animations, scripts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eillack Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 OP, That was just some extra touches that are typical for in-game trailers. I see it all the time. Except our normal graphics at KotFE launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychopyro Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 OP, That was just some extra touches that are typical for in-game trailers. I see it all the time. Except our normal graphics at KotFE launch. Kinda like food pictures at food places... The food in the picture never looks like the real food... Why, cause the food in the pictures usually isn't real, and if it is, it's waxed and shellacked to look better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuspectDown Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Kinda like food pictures at food places... The food in the picture never looks like the real food... Why, cause the food in the pictures usually isn't real, and if it is, it's waxed and shellacked to look better... lol, yep, so true. Pretty much every place not named in-n-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikinai Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 lol, yep, so true. Pretty much every place not named in-n-out. The taco truck I go to has real pictures of the food they make, nom nom nom, now I want tacos, and they are all the way on the other side of town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychopyro Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 lol, yep, so true. Pretty much every place not named in-n-out. Ummmm..... In n Out.... The taco truck I go to has real pictures of the food they make, nom nom nom, now I want tacos, and they are all the way on the other side of town Dammit, now I want tacos.... Humm In n Out Tacos..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrastor Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Valkorian and Arcaan come from real scanned human faces. These will always look more realistic, even in heavy-processed TOR's cartoonish style, compared to custom faces. Realism and beauty comes down to imperfections. Small skin details, barely noticeable irregular hairlines, asymetrical facial structure etc. Unless they improve custom presets for player characters with 3D bone meshes from real humans (which mean NOT perfectly symetrical/sculptured) and imprefect skin/hair, the difference will always be there/ Edited August 10, 2015 by Pietrastor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kantaso Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 They could have used the Highlander to make the Outlander http://www.mattsmoviereviews.net/Images/highlanderimage01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfux Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think it is becausew Valkyrion is a brand new face made with newer technology and better graphics and the outlander in that trailer is still the jedi knight 2 or 3 face that is still from launch, therefore they use that one because it's in the game already instead of doing new faces for our characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynden Posted August 10, 2015 Author Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think it is becausew Valkyrion is a brand new face made with newer technology and better graphics and the outlander in that trailer is still the jedi knight 2 or 3 face that is still from launch, therefore they use that one because it's in the game already instead of doing new faces for our characters I mean yeah, that's the point. The old faces stand out poorly against the new NPC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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