wrathofabeloth Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 She wasn't outright stated to be one but given that she is the head of sith intelligence, which is a rank within the dark council it does kinda make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythereal Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) No. Lana is merely a Lord, and not a member of the Dark Council - she serves directly under Darth Marr. Sith Intelligence is not a part of the Dark Council. If Darth Jadus is still around (he may or may not be depending on what you do as an Imperial Agent), it's stated that Imperial/Sith Intelligence is only part of his power base. Edited June 19, 2015 by Cythereal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianDavion Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 remember imperial intelligence was dismembered, chances are sith intelligence is no longer a single siths power base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 She was not on the Dark Council, nor will the Dark Council probably matter (along with the Jedi High Council) in the new expac by the sounds of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ehhh, no. Lana was not on the Council, and never will be unless Ravage, Mortis, Marr, Vengean, and Nox all spontaneously combust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ehhh, no. Lana was not on the Council, and never will be unless Ravage, Mortis, Marr, Vengean, and Nox all spontaneously combust. Whilst just sitting in the Council Chambers. A comical image. "Oh dear, I seem to be on fire..." "Oh yes, so you are. Ha, Seems I'm on fire too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Lana doesnt want to be a member of the power circle of the empire, she has no ambition to take one of the open positions. to her she feels as if she was lucky to of been noticed at all, Darth Arkos took notice of her and with everything that happened, she was right in the middle of it. Darth Marr did not promote her to Darth, instead he chose to give her the position of the person in charge of sith intelligence. perhaps later in life when she learned more and got more into her position, perhaps she could of, but i doubt it with the fallen empire taking out the imperal and repubic forces alike. it just strikes me that it happened mere months after ziost, which meant that lana did not get the chance to properly rebuild intelligence to a level she should of spotted the threat coming. i suspect she never had the chance to become a Darth in her own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Whilst just sitting in the Council Chambers. A comical image. "Oh dear, I seem to be on fire..." "Oh yes, so you are. Ha, Seems I'm on fire too." "Oh, Nox, it seems you're on purple fire." "Ah, yes, very relaxing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Lana doesnt want to be a member of the power circle of the empire, she has no ambition to take one of the open positions. to her she feels as if she was lucky to of been noticed at all, Darth Arkos took notice of her and with everything that happened, she was right in the middle of it. Darth Marr did not promote her to Darth, instead he chose to give her the position of the person in charge of sith intelligence. perhaps later in life when she learned more and got more into her position, perhaps she could of, but i doubt it with the fallen empire taking out the imperal and repubic forces alike. it just strikes me that it happened mere months after ziost, which meant that lana did not get the chance to properly rebuild intelligence to a level she should of spotted the threat coming. i suspect she never had the chance to become a Darth in her own right. Of course she couldn't rebuild Intelligence, she was inept as hell. Betrayed by Arkous (though she suspected him) then you had that 'rising star' of an Agent of hers that betrayed her on Ziost - if you're a real Sith, not some psychotic killer, a proper Sith and you can't see through the machinations of some newbie you don't deserve to be in a position of power. Also, "she feels she was lucky" is ridiculous. I agree that that was her reaction. But I highly doubt it was sincere - if it was even less Sith like behavior. Just seems like a badly written Anime character... Looks like one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balinus Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 No, prababbly the dark Council member responsible for the Sith Intelligence is Jadus' daugher I Forgot Her Name. Or she is independent, but she isnt neighter a Darth or dark council member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 No, prababbly the dark Council member responsible for the Sith Intelligence is Jadus' daugher I Forgot Her Name. Or she is independent, but she isnt neighter a Darth or dark council member Wouldn't trust Zhorrid with making the tea either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Of course she couldn't rebuild Intelligence, she was inept as hell. Betrayed by Arkous (though she suspected him) then you had that 'rising star' of an Agent of hers that betrayed her on Ziost - if you're a real Sith, not some psychotic killer, a proper Sith and you can't see through the machinations of some newbie you don't deserve to be in a position of power. Also, "she feels she was lucky" is ridiculous. I agree that that was her reaction. But I highly doubt it was sincere - if it was even less Sith like behavior. Just seems like a badly written Anime character... Looks like one too. what book are you reading from? i stated she didnt get the chance to "rebuild" intelligence. i didnt say she didnt know how to build it, besides what you are mentioning is before she even knew she had a future beyond arkous. how could she of known what arkous planned? she was not a mind reader but she did something about it pretty quickly. i wouldnt call that being inept especially when it came to revan getting taken out. the only real incompetent one was arkous because he sabotaged imperial goals and efficiency and then defected to another side, in the process creating a power vacuum and chaos that quickly followed. Edited June 19, 2015 by Celise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 what book are you reading from? i stated she didnt get the chance to "rebuild" intelligence. i didnt say she didnt know how to build it, besides what you are mentioning is before she even knew she had a future beyond arkous. how could she of known what arkous planned? she was not a mind reader but she did something about it pretty quickly. i wouldnt call that being inept especially when it came to revan getting taken out. the only real incompetent one was arkous because he sabotaged imperial goals and efficiency and then defected to another side, in the process creating a power vacuum and chaos that quickly followed. I didn't say that you said: "i didnt say she didnt know how to build it," I'm saying that. You can say Arkous is inept, but he wasn't in it for the Empire - he was in it for the Revanites. With that in mind he succeeded. Also, you seem to be ignoring my point regarding the events of Ziost. She was put under pressure and was found to be lacking. Great leaders emerge in times of Chaos not peace. She sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psythedude Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Ehhh, no. Lana was not on the Council, and never will be unless Ravage, Mortis, Marr, Vengean, and Nox all spontaneously combust. I thought Vengean was dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I thought Vengean was dead. He is, substitute it for Vowrawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythereal Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 He is, substitute it for Vowrawn. Vowrawn's gone, too, hiding in the Rishi Maze from the Emperor's Hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadishist Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I don't think Lana is even a Lord, she doesn't have a title right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I don't think Lana is even a Lord, she doesn't have a title right? Her official title as of now is Minister Beniko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celise Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I didn't say that you said: "i didnt say she didnt know how to build it," I'm saying that. You can say Arkous is inept, but he wasn't in it for the Empire - he was in it for the Revanites. With that in mind he succeeded. Also, you seem to be ignoring my point regarding the events of Ziost. She was put under pressure and was found to be lacking. Great leaders emerge in times of Chaos not peace. She sucked. churchill was an excellent war time leader but he really sucked as a peacetime leader. even the best have faults somewhere and even the best can make mistakes, we all can. lana is inexperienced in her role but clearly marr thought otherwise, he saw great potential in that. you are also missing one key deciding factor in lana case you brought up, by being duped the way she has twice now, it helps her understand better the task ahead of her, she will be on guard even more and only experience can teach such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cythereal Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 And besides, she has the Imperial Agent looking over her shoulder in Sith Intelligence anyway. Granted, the Imperial Agent may also be a double agent for the Republic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadishist Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Her official title as of now is Minister Beniko. I think that's a job title rather than a Sith title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyran Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 churchill was an excellent war time leader but he really sucked as a peacetime leader. even the best have faults somewhere and even the best can make mistakes, we all can. lana is inexperienced in her role but clearly marr thought otherwise, he saw great potential in that. you are also missing one key deciding factor in lana case you brought up, by being duped the way she has twice now, it helps her understand better the task ahead of her, she will be on guard even more and only experience can teach such things. She's been duped twice, in war time... With so much at risk someone like that is replaced immediately. That's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 I think that's a job title rather than a Sith title. It's the only one she uses, and even that one she'd prefer not to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xakthul Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Wouldn't trust Zhorrid with making the tea either. Zhorrid seemed to spend more time deciding whether or not to come onto the male agent to spite her father than actually ordering anybody to do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofabeloth Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 I don't think Lana is even a Lord, she doesn't have a title right? Actually she was stated to be a Sith Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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