The REAL Most Powerful Force Users - Rebooted

[MarcheseAMM]

That Revan can do all of that, and has already. :woah: I would be sticking back from the Nyriss/Vitiate vs Sidious argument in lightning though due to that is an entire debate in itself. I might be able to respond today but idk, midterms sux.

[Beniboybling]

Except we don't know if she was going to turn Meetra and Scourge to ash. Have you never heard of Prose child?

 

Even then killing herself isn't remotely impressive since she obviously didn't have enough energy to defend herself, dying exactly like Xedrix.

 

Oh, and she was in a force rage on a Nexus.

 

She sucks m8.

This, it didn't happen so as Legend would say its "fan based speculation."

[Aurbere]

Do Anakin and Obi wan have impressive TK feats? Yoda was confirmed superior to them both put together, so that's something.

 

Yeah, they do. I'd have to do some digging for them, but they do have some pretty good feats with telekinesis.

[Aurbere]

That Revan can do all of that, and has already. :woah: I would be sticking back from the Nyriss/Vitiate vs Sidious argument in lightning though due to that is an entire debate in itself. I might be able to respond today but idk, midterms sux.

 

Responding to me, yes?

 

Well, Revan hasn't done much of that.

[MarcheseAMM]

Yas, experience the denial in ways never seen before. You just got slaughterhoused below:

 

Except we don't know if she was going to turn Meetra and Scourge to ash. Have you never heard of Prose child?

 

"A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss's hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

Definition of incinerate: "to cause to burn to ashes"

 

Even then killing herself isn't remotely impressive since she obviously didn't have enough energy to defend herself, dying exactly like Xedrix.

Wrong, she put up a Force Barrier to defend herself, lol.

 

"She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

In terms of Force barrier feats, she absorbed Meetra's TK:

 

"An ordinary foe would have been thrown clear across the room, but Nyriss instinctively threw up a Force barrier to protect herself, absorbing and redirecting the brunt of the impact."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

Oh, and she was in a force rage on a Nexus.

Yep, and Revan fought this state of her, so why does that matter?

Edited January 18, 2015 by MarcheseAMM

[Rhyltran]

Lol what? Get Sasukedc over here now. Me and him spent our entire time on SWF trying to explain to the members the circumstances behind Sidious' defeat by Mace. I never made the time argument either, lol. Your entire argument is built on misconceptions of my argument, which is annoying since I had to spend my own time trying to figure out what the hell you are even saying. My point was that, and you expressed it here, that it is not credible to say Sidious could have beat Mace just as quickly as the other members (like you and Selenial said), because no canonical sources directly state that. Your "evidence" is really just assumptions, hence why you are a rather poor debater.

 

I have a question for you. Do you have trouble remembering your own quotes or just the quotes that put you in a hole?

 

I have seen everything Aurbere will post for Yoda dozens of times, and even more content.

 

Also, failure example on Sidious. He failed to defeat Mace, lol. In comparison, Vitiate dominated a Strike Team consisting of the TOR era's "most powerful Jedi," including the Hero of Tython and Tol Bragga, in seconds.

 

In here you not only claim that Vitiate is more impressive because he managed to defeat all his opponents but that he was able to defeat them all within seconds as opposed to Sidious not defeating Mace. You claim you never mentioned time but I can clearly see the word "seconds" here. Perhaps my eyes deceive me but I think the text is clear as day.

 

Assumptions? You realize that Windu, while in an advantageous position and towering over Sidious was close to losing his grip on his lightsaber? Do you know what Sidious lightning was doing to his saber? You claim it's an assumption he would have fared better against Windu without a lightsaber when you already acknowledged that he's superior without one? Do you even re-read your own arguments?

 

In fact, even from his weaker position if he didn't turn off his force lightning Windu was ALREADY going to lose within seconds. Even as Amped up as he was. So an amped up Windu (need I remind you he's one of the best Jedi the order has ever seen) was about to lose quickly in an advantageous position. You're telling me it's mere assumption rather than a logical conclusion to claim if Sidious opened up by going all out catching them by surprise (the way Vitiate did) with the force that somehow, while Windu was prepared to deal with him, and was already amped up with his lightsaber drawn and about to lose would somehow manage to defend it and last equally as long?

 

Now that's really taking a leap.

[Selenial]

"Selenial lunges at dear Anthony, intent on ripping his throat out"

 

Doesn't mean I would have actually managed to tear apart your flesh and claim your trachea as my trophy, does it now?

 

As for the force barrier, a barrier is only as strong as you can feed it. If she's wasted all her energy on a gathered lightning storm, she's not going to be able to put up a strong barrier. Kind of like the way Sidious and Dooku slowly overwhelmed Talzins, as she lost strength her barrier got weakened even though it was still there.

[MarcheseAMM]

I have a question for you. Do you have trouble remembering your own quotes or just the quotes that put you in a hole?

 

 

 

In here you not only claim that Vitiate is more impressive because he managed to defeat all his opponents but that he was able to defeat them all within seconds as opposed to Sidious not defeating Mace. You claim you never mentioned time but I can clearly see the word "seconds" here. Perhaps my eyes deceive me but I think the text is clear as day.

 

Assumptions? You realize that Windu, while in an advantageous position and towering over Sidious was close to losing his grip on his lightsaber? Do you know what Sidious lightning was doing to his saber? You claim it's an assumption he would have fared better against Windu without a lightsaber when you already acknowledged that he's superior without one? Do you even re-read your own arguments?

 

In fact, even from his weaker position if he didn't turn off his force lightning Windu was ALREADY going to lose within seconds. Even as Amped up as he was. So an amped up Windu (need I remind you he's one of the best Jedi the order has ever seen) was about to lose quickly in an advantageous position. You're telling me it's mere assumption rather than a logical conclusion to claim if Sidious opened up by going all out catching them by surprise (the way Vitiate did) with the force that somehow, while Windu was prepared to deal with him, and was already amped up with his lightsaber drawn and about to lose would somehow manage to defend it and last equally as long?

 

Now that's really taking a leap.

Lol what? Everything I said was correct.

"Also, failure example on Sidious. He failed to defeat Mace, lol:" True statement. Regardless if Sidious purposefully allowed Mace to win or not, he still canonically didn't beat Mace, which was the joke argument I got across.

 

"In comparison, Vitiate dominated a Strike Team consisting of the TOR era's "most powerful Jedi," including the Hero of Tython and Tol Bragga, in seconds.": Also true statement. VItiate did dominate the team within seconds.

 

Anything else you don't know how to read? If not, you are dismissed. Move along.

[MarcheseAMM]

"Selenial lunges at dear Anthony, intent on ripping his throat out"

 

Doesn't mean I would have actually managed to tear apart your flesh and claim your trachea as my trophy, does it now?

It wasn't her intent to, though, it was the narrator stating that was what was going to happen. This was confirmed when Revan deflected it back at her and it indeed incinerated her. Do you comprehend, or are you still in denial?

As for the force barrier, a barrier is only as strong as you can feed it. If she's wasted all her energy on a gathered lightning storm, she's not going to be able to put up a strong barrier.

This is a heavy "grasping at straws" argument. Nothing suggests she ran out of energy, and due to the constant supply amp of both the nexus and Force Rage, I seriously doubt she did. If anything, she would be more powerful as her body goes into a defensive state, sacrificing everything in order to prevent her from dying. *shrugs*

Edited January 18, 2015 by MarcheseAMM

[Selenial]

It wasn't her intent to, though, it was the narrator stating that was what was going to happen. This was confirmed when Revan deflected it back at her and it indeed incinerated her. Do you comprehend?

 

This is a heavy "grasping at straws" argument. Nothing suggests she ran out of energy, and do the constant supply amp of both the nexus and Force Rage, I seriously doubt she did. If anything, she would be more powerful as her body goes into a defensive state, sacrificing everything in order to prevent her from dying. *shrugs*

 

No, it's personification of the bolts. Your mid term english literature exam obviously isn't going to go well is it?

 

Except it's described in the exact same way as the Xedrix fight.

[Aurbere]

Nyriss couldn't even defend herself from her own lightning. What a chump.

 

/sarcasm +a bit of truth

 

Anyway, who wants to get the ball rolling for feats for Caedus and Vitiate?

[Rhyltran]

Lol what? Everything I said was correct.

"Also, failure example on Sidious. He failed to defeat Mace, lol:" True statement. Regardless if Sidious purposefully allowed Mace to win or not, he still canonically didn't beat Mace, which was the joke argument I got across.

 

"In comparison, Vitiate dominated a Strike Team consisting of the TOR era's "most powerful Jedi," including the Hero of Tython and Tol Bragga, in seconds.": Also true statement. VItiate did dominate the team within seconds.

 

Anything else you don't know how to read? If not, you are dismissed. Move along.

 

Indeed he did but at the same time Sidious destroyed all the members in the strike team against him aside from Mace in seconds using a lightsaber which he uses only to humiliate Jedi because it's essentially him holding back and not fighting at his true power. This is what you tried (and failed might I add) arguing against me. Vitiate went all out. Sidious did not.

 

Again, you tried to contest this point and failed. You also just one post ago claimed you never brought in time. Now you're saying "I did and it was true so what?" You're flip flopping more than a losing presidential candidate. You also tried to claim that the strike team vitiate dealt with is stronger than the one Sidious dealt with despite the one he dealt with having one of the most powerful Jedi of all time amped up on the power of the most powerful Sith of all time.

 

The hero of Tython also wasn't at his fullest either. The hero of Tython, at his fullest, defeated Vitiate one on one whereas Windu, who was amped up on his power, was struggling in a contest against Sidious who wasn't fighting at his most serious. Your vitiate wanking will not spare you in this debate. Nor will telling me I'm dismissed or other nonsense. You even back peddled just now in this most recent post. Remember? You never brought up time or used time in an argument.

 

P.S. What's with you constantly telling people what you're doing in life? You mentioned before you had some Catholic event, you constantly talk about your mid-terms, you mentioned relationship issues before. This isn't an attack I'm honestly curious why you feel the need to tell us your life story? I have more knowledge about what's going on in your life than some of my good friends.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Rhyltran

[Beniboybling]

Yas, experience the denial in ways never seen before. You just got slaughterhoused below:

 

 

 

"A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss's hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

Definition of incinerate: "to cause to burn to ashes"

 

 

Wrong, she put up a Force Barrier to defend herself, lol.

 

"She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

In terms of Force barrier feats, she absorbed Meetra's TK:

 

"An ordinary foe would have been thrown clear across the room, but Nyriss instinctively threw up a Force barrier to protect herself, absorbing and redirecting the brunt of the impact."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

 

Yep, and Revan fought this state of her, so why does that matter?

It says she tried to throw up a barrier i.e. she failed. Nyriss would have expended a lot of energy performing the attack she did, and would have been unable to adequately defend herself at the same time. This is the only logical conclusion, because it is for obvious reasons impossible for Nyriss to incinerate straight out a being of equal strength.

 

And as Selenial said, it doesn't matter what words the novel used, it didn't happen, so it can be dismissed as hyperbole. Simply put your argument its based on logical fallacies, hardly the reasonable points I was looking for.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Beniboybling

[tunewalker]

Yas, experience the denial in ways never seen before. You just got slaughterhoused below:

 

 

 

"A dozen bolts of lightning sprang from Nyriss's hand, arcing across the room to incinerate her enemies."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

Definition of incinerate: "to cause to burn to ashes"

 

 

Wrong, she put up a Force Barrier to defend herself, lol.

 

"She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

In terms of Force barrier feats, she absorbed Meetra's TK:

 

"An ordinary foe would have been thrown clear across the room, but Nyriss instinctively threw up a Force barrier to protect herself, absorbing and redirecting the brunt of the impact."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

 

Yep, and Revan fought this state of her, so why does that matter?

 

Key word was Bolded and underlined for your viewing pleasure. The barrier she threw up was "weak", " Do, or Do not... there is no Try"

[MarcheseAMM]

No, it's personification of the bolts. Your mid term english literature exam obviously isn't going to go well is it?

 

It's not personification when we see Darth Nyriss clearly capable of turning people into ash via Force Lightning:

 

"She tried to throw up another Force shield, but the bolts ripped it apart and continued on unabated. The lightning engulfed her, the intense heat consuming her instantly, leaving only a pile of charred ash."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

"A burst of purple lightning arched down the steps, catching both men in the chest. They barely had time to scream before they were turned into charred and smoking husks..."

―Star Wars The Old Republic: Revan

 

 

Except it's described in the exact same way as the Xedrix fight.

No it wasn't. Xedrix grew tired and weak after the attack because, as the narration notes, he was a shell of his former self. In comparison, the narration directly states Nyriss was a warrior in her prime. I accept your concession.

 

"Scourge had been waiting inside the cave on Bosthirda for nearly an hour when he finally heard the faint sound of a speeder landing outside. A few minutes later he heard footsteps coming down the passage. He smiled. Unlike his previous missions for Nyriss, this time he was not plagued with doubts and uncertainties. The anticipation of the coming kill kept him well focused on the task at hand.

 

As expected, Darth Xedrix hadn’t come alone. A pair of Sith acolytes—humans, one male, one female—preceded him, striding into the cave, lightsabers drawn. They wore light armor under robes of blue and gold, the colors of their liege.

 

The circular cavern was only ten meters in diameter and dark. The only illumination came from their blades and the glowing fungus that clung to the rough rock walls. Scourge crouched in the shadows, wrapped in a cloak of the dark side that both made him invisible to the Force and helped to ward off the chill of the subterranean air. He remained motionless as the pair passed within a few meters of his hiding place, patiently waiting.

 

Darth Xedrix trailed his escort by several paces. Unlike his acolytes, he had not drawn his weapon, and he wore no visible armor beneath his robes. He was several centimeters taller than Scourge, but much thinner. He had thick, shoulder-length white hair, but no beard. His face was lined, though not as extensively or deeply as Nyriss’s, and there was a hint of a stoop to his shoulders and a cautious frailty about the way he moved.

 

His appearance recalled Nyriss’s words: He is human—they are a lesser species. Over the decades, the dark side has exacted too great a toll on his body. He is a hollow shell of what he once was.

 

Yet Scourge could sense the Councilor’s enormous power. Darth Xedrix was still a member of the Dark Council, and underestimating him would be a fatal mistake.

 

The moment the tall human passed Scourge’s hiding place, Scourge leapt, igniting his lightsaber as he flew through the air. For a moment he thought his first strike would find its mark, and he was almost disappointed at the thought of ending Xedrix’s life so easily. But at the last instant the human’s own blade materialized seemingly out of nowhere to intercept the blow.

 

They exchanged a quick flurry of thrusts and parries. Scourge tried and failed to draw on his foe’s fear and anger—Xedrix was too controlled, and it felt more like fighting a droid. Scourge forcibly thrust his own fears away and reached deep inside himself to find the fury he needed.

 

He had maneuvered himself so that he was behind Xedrix, blocking the passage that was the only route into and out of the cave. The two acolytes had already spun around and rushed in to join the fray, and he prepared himself to deal with them, too.

 

But suddenly he had only those two to deal with as Xedrix backed away. He seemed to be more obsessed with preserving his own life than killing his enemy—a weakness that left him content to let his two underlings face this unknown foe while he stayed at a safe distance.

 

The two apprentices launched themselves at Scourge, unleashing their rage as they drew on the power of the dark side, unaware that their anger was feeding their opponent, as well.

 

The female came in high, her lightsaber slashing at Scourge’s head. At the same time the human male came in low, looking to chop at his enemy’s legs.

 

Scourge ducked under the woman’s blows, spinning to the side as he parried the lightsaber at his knees. The pair came at him again, once more coordinating their attacks, this time trying to flank him on either side. Scourge lunged forward, splitting the attack by diving into a forward roll that took him between his two opponents.

 

For an instant he was vulnerable; one quick cut from either foe could have ended his life. But they were inexperienced, and they hadn’t expected him to move toward them. By the time the woman reacted with a backhand swipe of her weapon, the moment had been lost. The lightsaber hummed by his cheek as he tumbled between them, but he emerged unscathed.

 

The man was slower to react. By the time Scourge was back on his feet, the acolyte was only just starting to turn around. The Sith Lord delivered a quick kick to the back of the man’s knee; the man pin-wheeled his arms as he fought to regain his balance.

 

Scourge saw the opening and delivered what would have been a lethal blow had the woman not thrown herself between them and parried the blow. Her move was reckless and foolhardy, but Scourge hadn’t been expecting it, and her impulsive reaction saved her companion. It also exposed her weakness.

 

The female was the more dangerous opponent, but she obviously cared for her partner. She was willing to put herself in harm’s way to defend him—a flaw Scourge could easily exploit.

 

He abruptly changed tactics, shifting from the conventional defensive positions of the Soresu form to the acrobatic attack sequences of Ataru. Taking two quick steps to gain speed, Scourge leapt at the nearby cavern wall, planted both feet on its vertical surface, then pushed off hard to launch himself in a spinning flip over the man’s head.

 

His opponent tried to turn and pivot to keep Scourge in front of him, but the furious burst of action was too fast for his lightsaber to track. He was late bringing his blade up to protect his head, once again exposing himself to a lethal strike.

 

This time when the woman moved in to protect her partner, Scourge was ready. He had purposefully directed his leap so that he came in at a sharper angle than necessary, leaving barely enough room for the female to come between him and his supposed target. When Scourge suddenly redirected his blade mid-leap to strike at her instead, she instinctively stepped back to absorb the impact with her own weapon. But with her partner crowded directly behind her, there was no room. Their bodies collided and their feet tangled together, sending both of them crashing awkwardly to the ground.

 

Scourge landed beside their prone forms. He brought his heavy boot crashing down on his fallen foe’s face, relishing the wet crunch of cartilage and bone beneath his heel. Her body spasmed, the muscles locked in the seizures of her death throes.

 

The man had scrambled to his feet, but instead of throwing himself at Scourge, he only stared at the woman’s twitching corpse. Scourge could taste his horror and fear; they gave him a fresh burst of energy. He lashed out with the Force, striking the man in the chest hard enough to send him stumbling back several steps into the cavern wall.

 

The man struck the rough-hewn rock hard enough to knock the lightsaber from his hand, leaving him unarmed. With a casual flick of his wrist, Scourge sent his own lightsaber spiraling toward his defenseless foe. At the last second, the man threw up his hands in a vain effort to protect himself, but the glowing blade easily sliced through his palms and throat before ricocheting back to Scourge’s waiting grasp.

 

As the human’s corpse crumpled to the ground, Scourge was already turning to face his last remaining foe. Darth Xedrix was standing motionless in the center of the cavern, watching the action with a cool, detached reserve. His lightsaber was still drawn, but he held it casually at his side, the blade pointed toward the floor.

 

“I know you,” he said, his voice echoing off the chamber’s stone walls. “Nyriss’s new pet. Lord Scourge.” He wrinkled his features in distaste. “Why do you purebloods always choose such ludicrous names for yourselves? Do you think it’s intimidating?”

 

Scourge didn’t reply. Instead he raised his blade and began a slow, cautious advance.

 

Xedrix laughed. “Are you really that stupid, Scourge? Has Nyriss actually convinced you that you have the strength to stand against a member of the Dark Council? Has she promised you riches and power if you defeat me?”

 

“She didn’t need to promise me anything,” Scourge answered. “You are a traitor to the Empire. It is my honor and duty to kill you.”

 

“Ah, now I understand,” Xedrix said with a smile, twirling his lightsaber at his side. “She played on your loyalty to our glorious Emperor. How quaint.”

 

Scourge stopped, suddenly aware that he didn’t feel any fear emanating from his foe. There was no anger, either. He didn’t get any sense of emotion coming from Darth Xedrix at all, and he realized the old man was consciously shielding himself from Scourge’s awareness.

 

Scourge concentrated his focus, reaching out with the Force to pierce the veil Xedrix had wrapped around himself, only to find nothing but a swirling maelstrom of dark side energy.

 

Scourge broke into a run, charging at his enemy the instant he understood the nature of the trap. Xedrix had kept him talking while he gathered his power for a single, lethal attack.

 

Xedrix raised his left hand and unleashed his power in a storm of purple lightning. Scourge instinctively used the Force to throw up an invisible barrier to shield himself. The bolts arced through the air, ripping through the shield to engulf Scourge in electric agony.

 

He screamed, his voice rising above the hiss and crackle of the fiery energy coursing through his veins. Every nerve in his body exploded in excruciating pain as the lightning seared his flesh, cooking him in his own armor. He fell to the floor, curled into himself, his skin blistered and burned. The whole thing had taken only a few seconds.

 

“You didn’t realize Nyriss sent you here to die, did you?” Xedrix mocked. “She never expected you to kill me. You were nothing but a message, a warning.”

 

Ignoring the terrible pain, Scourge somehow forced himself to his feet. Xedrix raised an eyebrow in mild surprise.

 

“Is that what you call the attempts on her life?” Scourge gasped. “A warning?”

 

Xedrix laughed again. “You think I’m the one who hired those inept assassins? Nyriss has you twisted in knots. She’s using you for a game far beyond anything you can imagine.”

 

Scourge shook his head, trying as much to shake off the residual effects of the lightning as to deny Xedrix’s words.

 

“You feel your strength returning, do you?” Xedrix observed. “Think carefully before you challenge me again. I might not let you live next time.”

 

“Why did you let me live?” Scourge wanted to know.

 

“You have potential,” Xedrix said. “And thanks to you, I have need of some new apprentices. I could find a use for someone with your talents.”

 

“You want me to betray Nyriss?”

 

“What do you owe her?” Xedrix demanded. “She used you. She sent you here to die just to make a point.”

 

Scourge didn’t answer. Instead, he was thinking back on everything that had happened since he’d first entered Nyriss’s service. Nyriss had admitted to hiring the mercenaries to test him, but even after that, he’d still suspected Sechel of plotting to kill him. Had the conniving adviser merely been following Nyriss’s orders all along?

 

“Nyriss betrayed you. Swear loyalty to me and I promise you the chance for revenge.”

 

Everything Xedrix said made perfect sense, but on some deep, primal level Scourge felt he was being twisted and manipulated. The old human’s words seemed to slither into the cracks and crevices of Scourge’s mind, burrowing into his thoughts.

 

No! his mind screamed in silent protest. It’s a trick!

 

But was it? Nyriss had convinced him he could kill Darth Xedrix, but a single burst of dark side lightning had nearly killed him instead. The only reason he was still alive was because Darth Xedrix was toying with him.

 

What if he’s not toying with me? Scourge suddenly wondered. What if he tried to kill me but failed?

 

Nyriss had said that Xedrix was old and frail. She’d claimed the Force had ravaged his body; she’d said he only held on to his power through reputation and cunning. What if he was relying on those same tools right now?

 

Scourge reached out with the Force again, trying once more to catch a glimpse beneath Xedrix’s veil. To his surprise he sensed something this time. Fear. Desperation. And almost no trace of the dark side burning inside his enemy.

 

All the pieces clicked into place. Nyriss was right: Xedrix was a shell of what he had once been. The entire time Scourge had been battling the two apprentices, Xedrix had been gathering his strength for a single surprise attack. When his apprentices fell, he’d stalled for even more time by taunting Scourge. And he still hadn’t been able to gather enough power to kill his enemy.

 

The blast of lightning had taken everything the old man had in reserve. In Xedrix the flame of the dark side had become the faintest flicker. When he saw that Scourge had survived, he’d realized his only chance of survival was to trick him into switching sides. He’d tried to use the faint echo of the Force to dominate Scourge’s mind, augmenting it with persuasive words in a form of temporary hypnosis. But he lacked the strength even for that desperate gambit.

 

The brilliant bluff had almost worked.

 

“Your words are hollow, Xedrix. Just like your power.”

 

Scourge marched forward with grim determination. Xedrix brought his lightsaber up, but Scourge used his own blade to slap it aside with ease. The strength of the blow sent the weapon tumbling from the old man’s frail grasp, the blade extinguishing as the hilt clattered onto the stone at their feet.

 

Xedrix staggered backward. He no longer pretended power: he looked desperate and afraid. “Please, Lord Scourge, I’ll give you anything you want. Slaves. Wealth. Power.”

 

“Power?” Scourge snorted in contempt. “You can’t give what isn’t yours.”

 

He slashed his blade diagonally across Xedrix’s chest, slicing him from shoulder to hip.

 

The old man gasped once before falling over backward, his eyes frozen wide in horror, seeming to stare up at the stalactites growing from the cavern ceiling."

Edited January 18, 2015 by MarcheseAMM

[MarcheseAMM]

It says she tried to throw up a barrier i.e. she failed. Nyriss would have expended a lot of energy performing the attack she did, and would have been unable to adequately defend herself at the same time. This is the only logical conclusion, because it is for obvious reasons impossible for Nyriss to incinerate straight out a being of equal strength.

No, she tried as in the barrier failed due to her lightning being more powerful, not that she didn't successfully put up the barrier, for the narration states it did destroy the barrier she did indeed put up.

[MarcheseAMM]

P.S. What's with you constantly telling people what you're doing in life? You mentioned before you had some Catholic event, you constantly talk about your mid-terms, you mentioned relationship issues before. This isn't an attack I'm honestly curious why you feel the need to tell us your life story? I have more knowledge about what's going on in your life than some of my good friends.

 

Because everyone cares about my personal life because my life is more important then yours.

 

Just joking, we are all equals. [insert Bible quote here that I can't post because BioWare hates religion.]

 

Edited January 18, 2015 by MarcheseAMM

[Rhyltran]

Because everyone cares about my personal life because my life is more important then yours.

 

Just joking, we are all equals. [insert Bible quote here that I can't post because BioWare hates religion.]

 

I don't think anyone here cares about what's going on in your life. Again, not saying this to insult you. I personally don't know you. If you were someone I knew? Sure, I'd be all ears and glad to even offer advice but telling a bunch of strangers on the internet? It's just.. odd.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Rhyltran

[MarcheseAMM]

I don't think anyone here cares about what's going on in your life.

Eh some do, surprisingly, which is the entire point of forums. You make friends and enemies, allies and threats, etc.

EDIT: Note we come from different forums, so some of the stuff I say might be considered odd or unorthodox for you, but in reality is commonly said and loved on other websites. Everything is relative, and you need to be more open.

Edited January 18, 2015 by MarcheseAMM

[Rhyltran]

Eh some do, surprisingly, which is the entire point of forums. You make friends and enemies, allies and threats, etc.

 

To be fair I hope no one dislikes anyone strong enough to consider another an enemy via what they know on the internet (unless it's really horrible). Example, while I don't agree with you I don't dislike you. I don't like you either. However, that isn't for personal reasons. It's the internet so I don't really know you. I seriously question people who get so worked up they truly dislike or hate someone just because of their dealings online.

 

I come from different forums as well. I'm a member of various forums but it's still alien to me.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Rhyltran

[MarcheseAMM]

To be fair I hope no one dislikes anyone strong enough to consider another an enemy via what they know on the internet (unless it's really horrible). Example, while I don't agree with you I don't dislike you. I don't like you either. However, that isn't for personal reasons. It's the internet so I don't really know you. I seriously question people who get so worked up they truly dislike or hate someone just because of their dealings online.

Nah, SWTOR Forums is literally the white-washed version of Star Wars forums, trust me. Anyway, you are a decent debater kid, just your cockiness blinds you to the fact that half of the stuff you are debating the other person never even said, and you are interpreting their words in ways they never meant, which down the road will hurt your credibility.

[Rhyltran]

Nah, SWTOR Forums is literally the white-washed version of Star Wars forums, trust me. Anyway, you are a decent debater kid, just your cockiness blinds you to the fact that half of the stuff you are debating the other person never even said, and you are interpreting their words in ways they never meant, which down the road will hurt your credibility.

 

I didn't come from the SWTOR. I already alluded to that in a previous post but it might have been missed. I have debated with you on KMC. I am also privvy to various other star wars forums that I visited before SWTOR even existed. Including a few roleplay ones just for kicks. As for my name on those forums? Entirely secret. I'm genuinely a very private person.

 

I keep my online stuff online. One forum things to that one forum. Very few people I meet online do I ever speak outside the forum medium anymore.

Edited January 18, 2015 by Rhyltran

[tunewalker]

So has anything Yoda, Caedus and Vitiate related been posted recently, kind of stopped paying attention when we hit the Nyriss Blah Blah Blah, and started skimming instead.

[MarcheseAMM]

I didn't come from the SWTOR. I already alluded to that in a previous post but it might have been missed. I have debated with you on KMC. I am also privvy to various other star wars forums that I visited before SWTOR even existed. Including a few roleplay ones just for kicks. As for my name on those forums? Entirely secret. I'm genuinely a very private person.

 

What I mean is that, I wrote to Aurbere in a strict literal sense to manipulate the reader so they would form an opinion on Vitiate and Sidious based on the information provided, for studies show a reader is far more likely to agree with something if they indeed thought that they came up with the idea. You fell in-between the lines and came up with your opinion based on my intentionally blunt quote, believing how you thought I meant was what I actually meant, which is fallacious because I meant exactly what I wrote, nothing more. People do this on KMC a lot, I guess they don't on here.

[Aurbere]

So has anything Yoda, Caedus and Vitiate related been posted recently, kind of stopped paying attention when we hit the Nyriss Blah Blah Blah, and started skimming instead.

 

Pretty sure my Yoda post is the only thing that's been technically on-topic recently.