Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I wonder if there are any plans on adding PvE content for GSF. Tbh I really hope not. I didn't like GSF at all and believe it to be a waste of time for myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurreth Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If you'd read the dev blags about GSF, you'd know that there isn't any such thing. They tried, didn't get it right, decided to focus on PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Hope they never get it right... And never think they're getting it right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonddd Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If you don't like GSF, why are you here? Troll post, move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 I am here just because I hope GSF never gets to PvE. And I want to get some insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_sim Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Trust me Bioware did think of PvE. They have stated that an AI worthy of this game would be a massive undertaking with no clear expectations of success. If another group does manage to make headway I'm sure they will adapt that technology to be used here but for the time being it looks like PvP is what we are getting. That being said perhaps a progressive PvP mode(sort of like Voidstar) could very well be in the works and perhaps incorporate strong AI elements using larger slower starships as objectives but having players as defensive starfighters. Form it in a very role based way where certain classes attack the heavys while others escort. This would in some ways almost hybridize PvP and PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurreth Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Oh darn please no "escort the suicidal AI" missions I really really really hate those, always have, always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Trust me Bioware did think of PvE. They have stated that an AI worthy of this game would be a massive undertaking with no clear expectations of success. If another group does manage to make headway I'm sure they will adapt that technology to be used here but for the time being it looks like PvP is what we are getting. That being said perhaps a progressive PvP mode(sort of like Voidstar) could very well be in the works and perhaps incorporate strong AI elements using larger slower starships as objectives but having players as defensive starfighters. Form it in a very role based way where certain classes attack the heavys while others escort. This would in some ways almost hybridize PvP and PvE. Let it go this way, I don't mind. There were kinda rumors there's going to be an ops based on GSF - that's what I mean exactly. And I feel this gonna be the end for me if it goes this way. Edited January 2, 2014 by Bylinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 PVE scenarios could work if done right, make it like FP's pretty much. not saying i would like it or hate it but it seems like it could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turajin Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I wonder if there are any plans on adding PvE content for GSF. Tbh I really hope not. I didn't like GSF at all and believe it to be a waste of time for myself. If you don't like GSF at all, and since you don't like it you don't play it, why do you care wether it's PvP or PvE? I hope they will get the AI right (there had been enough space combat simulators within the last 2 decades that prove that it can be done, so that whole "we can't get the ai right" is, from my point of view, just a lame excuse), because I would like GSF if it would be PvE. It's the PvP part of it that I totally dislike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 If you don't like GSF at all, and since you don't like it you don't play it, why do you care wether it's PvP or PvE? I don't play GSF at all. If I want someting of that kind I would prefer World of Tanks and\or World of Warplanes instead. But I love raiding and that's why I am in this game. And I care because I don't want GSF-raiding which will mean I'll have to rape myself to lvl-up a ship for raiding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I don't play GSF at all. If I want someting of that kind I would prefer World of Tanks and\or World of Warplanes instead. But I love raiding and that's why I am in this game. And I care because I don't want GSF-raiding which will mean I'll have to rape myself to lvl-up a ship for raiding. i dont think there has been any word of a GSF Op, if they did make pve content for it, it would more than likely be similar to FP's. and even if there were a GSF Op im sure it wouldnt drop armor and weapons for your character instead it would give fleet/ship requisition and maybe some unlocks for the ships you cant get else where but even that i doubt.. and since you dont like GSF and prefer those other 2 games then why not leave GSF alone and go play those games? lol it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out they wouldnt put ground gear in GSF. maybe comms but comms are already easy to get so that wouldnt make any difference at all. Edited January 2, 2014 by GooseGrims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishingwell Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I don't play GSF at all. If I want someting of that kind I would prefer World of Tanks and\or World of Warplanes instead. But I love raiding and that's why I am in this game. And I care because I don't want GSF-raiding which will mean I'll have to rape myself to lvl-up a ship for raiding. Or you could skip that particular Op because you don't like GSF. I love GSF but am not really big into raiding or ground PVP -- therefore, I rarely do either. I still have plenty to do in the game to make my sub worth it. If you're worried about PVE GSF giving ground rewards, I seriously doubt it would give much, if anything, that couldn't be acquired elsewhere. You can't upset the balance for ground PVE people or the PVP GSF people by mixing things up like that, which means there would be very little reason for you to have to set foot in a starfighter. Personally, I would love to see PVE GSF in solo or small group missions. I would love to have some space missions off the rails. I would especially love being able to fill out spots in a squadron with alts from my legacy. But would I expect to get amazing ground campaign rewards for it? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Or you could skip that particular Op because you don't like GSF. Skip it and wait for a new one for a year? No, thanks. And my whole raiding team that took so much time to gather will be dismissed. Edited January 2, 2014 by Bylinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Skip it and wait for a new one for a year? No, thanks. And my whole raiding team that took so much time to gather will be dismissed. and your still assuming it will have ground gear IF it even happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) and your still assuming it will have ground gear IF it even happens. I don't give a damn about gear, 'cause it's not my goal but a way to reach it. I care about new fights, new bosses, new encounters in a ground way. I'm just afraid that making GSF-based-ops would take resourses that could be spent on creating new NORMAL ops. Edited January 2, 2014 by Bylinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) I don't give a damn about gear, 'cause it's not my goal but a way to reach it. I care about new fights, new bosses, new encounters in a ground way. I just believe that making GSF-based-ops would take resourses that could be spent on creating new NORMAL ops. cause game modes you want is the only thing that matters? guess again... the more i think about it the more i want them to add GSF Ops with unique cosmetics and components and as an alternative way of gaining ship/fleet requisition. Edited January 2, 2014 by GooseGrims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 and it could also give new players getting into GSF a less stressful environment to learn to pilot and catch up in upgrades (not that a stock ship cant take an upgraded one but many think they cant) atleast in Story Mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Man, it seems to me we're talking about different things. If GSF as we have it was a part of the expansion set, just an option, I wouldn't bother. But it is expansion itself (as BW call it), which means it's gonna form future gameplay. I wish I was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Man, it seems to me we're talking about different things. If GSF as we have it was a part of the expansion set, just an option, I wouldn't bother. But it is expansion itself (as BW call it), which means it's gonna form future gameplay. I wish I was mistaken. GSF is the expansion, and its not even fully live yet which you can see in the dev tracker. whats done is done and complaining about it isnt going to make them say "omg we upset bylinski with GSF lets take it out of the game and give them a new ground based Ops". so far enough ppl like the expansion and we still have 2 batches of players yet to get into GSF. and since beta they have been working on a better space game than the one on rails they gave us so im guessing they have ALOT of plans for it, buckle up cause were is just getting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 And then again. I'm not asking to remove GSF from the game, because it failed for ME. I'm pretty reasonable to realise that there're plenty of those who really like and even adore GSF. I just want to know (being sure would be much better) that I'll get new GROUND ops in half-a-year after previous like it was before. Why? I've got several reasons, starting from wasting my time and money on doing nothing, because I've got nothing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 And then again. I'm not asking to remove GSF from the game, because it failed for ME. I'm pretty reasonable to realise that there're plenty of those who really like and even adore GSF. I just want to know (being sure would be much better) that I'll get new GROUND ops in half-a-year after previous like it was before. Why? I've got several reasons, starting from wasting my time and money on doing nothing, because I've got nothing to do. nobody is forcing you to play a game you have "nothing to do" in. and who said there Ops dev team would get moved to GSF? you do realize that in MMO's they have different departments working on different aspects of the game rright? from bug fixes to class story to ops and now gsf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain_Turinbar Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If you don't like GSF at all, and since you don't like it you don't play it, why do you care wether it's PvP or PvE? I hope they will get the AI right (there had been enough space combat simulators within the last 2 decades that prove that it can be done, so that whole "we can't get the ai right" is, from my point of view, just a lame excuse), because I would like GSF if it would be PvE. It's the PvP part of it that I totally dislike. More like they can't get it right within their budget for the minigame/expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bylinski Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) they have different departments working on different aspects of the game... from bug fixes to class story to ops and now gsf. yeah, I know that. but it changes nothing. ops department gets an order and does what it's told to, right? and if the order is to create ops for gsf... anyway, as well as I can see it only suggestions we've got... Edited January 3, 2014 by Bylinski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GooseGrims Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) yeah, I know that. but it changes nothing. ops department gets an order and does what it's told to, right? and if the order is to create ops for gsf... anyway, as well as I can see it only suggestions we've got... and that brings us back around to your assumptions, you still Assume that IF we get any pve content that it will be an ops, and if it was it would not be anything like the normal ground ops which is why it would fall on the new GSF dev team and not the Ops dev team. again if there were a GSF ops it would not in anyway affect the ground game and instead reward things to be used in GSF weather it be cosmetics or components. they would not give this job to the normal Ops team and have the GSF team sit on there hands for 10 hours a day. Edited January 3, 2014 by GooseGrims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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