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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 446: 7.2 Is A Game Changer

7.2 has been announced and it's going to be a… wait for it… gamechanger! We have takes. Some are hot, even. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-446. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 447: 7.2 PvP Takes

We look at the meat of the PvP changes coming and then talk about some of the opinions, feelings and hot takes surrounding the changes to ranked. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-447. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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Sup, I usually really like your podcasts. Sadly they aren't in any time I could realistically watch them live. 

However, as you probably already know, some of the ranked takes especially were... not that accurate or straight up misrepresent the community entirely. However you accurately described what a player not in the community would think about ranked. Some of the arguments you made were along the lines of: 

1. ranked is not worth maintaining, it has a higher cost of maintaining then someone might think, investigating reports, new rewards etc. 

The problem is that there were no reports read and acted upon last season, there was a new weapon set - you know, like the one the cartel market gets every minor patch, and the reused flairs - yes there were new titles, but in all the effort and resources they did announce those TWICE, but with different titles! So nobody even knew really what they were even getting. 

2. ranked players can duel or make preset games via challenges

Yes, yes we could but how is this fun. It is called solo-ranked for a reason, I do not want to know in what team I am in advance and take a gamble, being upset about getting a bad team is one of the best parts about ranked because it makes it feel real. Sometimes you just get unlucky it is what it is. This gamble adds insane flavor to ranked.

3. solo ranked wasn't as popular

it's just not true, solo ranked was way more popular than teamranked 

4. ranked players weren't welcoming new players and toxic in general (at 46:30 especially and 49) 

it is simply not the job of the ranked players to put the toxic people in their place, it is simply not our job to "keep the pool clean". People are WAY more toxic in regs, there was the situation described by you in which case a "no name player" would enter solo ranked and be focused down on a squishy class and then gets called bad. The underlying assumption being that the player gets flamed for playing a bad class, which in this preseason would've been something like sniper. Sniper is the by far worst class for solo ranked right now, but good snipers don't get flamed even though they die first. If the sniper tries to live and tries to kite there he is showing his team they can bother to try to win since it's not just a 3v4. In ranked player are good enough to see, probably instantly, if a player is good or bad. It has very little to do with the classes and usually focusing a bad player is not a smart idea since... well they are bad what are they going to do? Basic attack? Oh no! If a player is so bad, doesn't know any basics or how to play their classes basics, they are focused down because of the mentality of their team, that is what is being attacked in reality. Why, why in the world would I try to win a game when someone just dies instantly and provides nothing? Is that a too high barrier and too much to ask? A class like sniper will always die with around 460k taken and there is not much you can do about that, but dying with 300k is not acceptable. For merc this number is much higher, a merc can take 1.2 to 1.4m damage and still die faster than a sniper. It actually has very little to do with the classes the players play and everything with how they play them and how they try to pull their weight. Am I really being toxic if I try to save my elo and that players time if I tell him to "try regs a bit more before you come into ranked, you're missing essential basics"? I don't think that's toxic at all,  wouldn't it be way more toxic to say nothing, see him get destroyed for 1h maybe 2 and then just insta leave when he's in your team? Does that help anybody? 

Ranked was actually were welcoming, people were helping me left and right to get better because I came with a foundation which to build upon, I learned how to focus target modifier interrupt from alim, I learned how to be good on sage from cerasi and lyala, I learned how to tank from xantrian and all I did was ask them. Come to any ranked player with a basic knowledge of the game and the abilities and I guarantee that you will not find ANY toxicity. The community is straight up to small to have any drama, it does not work. In S13 neyorus made (or idk if he made it but that's the first time I saw it) this meme . It is 100% accurate, you can be mad at another member of the community, but it can't be drama because... well it's to small! Sure some people didn't like each other and sure some other people took it too far but that is usually between known members and players who have earned respect and titles already, so everybody knows nothing will happen because both are kinda right in their own way. I didn't do much on SF last season, but the few games I had the player caprica helped out everybody left and right motivating people helping them improve everything, just for bioware to scam him out of BOTH (I think) of his earned top3s. 

Bioware took the only way we had to enforce the thing you said. They took the tool to keep the pool clean away, which would be votekick. Which also got removed due to "abusing" it, but I saw it maybe once or twice and that was just fun between players who already knew each other. 

Also, in an online game. A ranked mode, as a new player? What did they expected I mean come on.

5. "block people, ban people, report people - a lot more of that could've been going on"

No. Bioware does not take action. This player got reported COUNTLESS times and he did not even receive any punishment that I know of. 

6. Everybody gets told to stop queueing.

Because, they want to protect them from getting farmed over and over and over and over and over again until they actually do get flamed for wasting everybody's time! Where is the difference from getting kicked from a MM fps for not doing enough damage and this situation, I simply don't see a difference

 

By the way, are you actually interested in knowing why it got removed to begin with? It had nothing to do with toxicity and improving the experience, they didn't know how to make a season rating for one character with two classes? How does Top3 work now? What if you're a gunslinger PT farm rating on PT than go slinger? Do you get to be a top3 slinger than? They didn't want to do that, it would've cost them any resources and that is actually the reason it got removed. They did not know what to do and did not have the resources to come up with a solution. Now, everybody gets to "tell their bad ranked experience" and pull the community through the mud one last time. Ranked is a very deep gamemode, everybody has heard of it: queue manipulation - it's an actual thing and people use it to defend top3 titles for tanks especially. 

 

I agree with most of your other points and I do not mean this is an "offending" or "provoking" manner. I suggest when you talk about a topic this "spicy" next time ask a player of the community to come join you because it really did not represent the ranked community accurately or fairly. I suggest asking @septru for ranked. He is well respected well known and a friend of biggs. I'm sure that would've been a more fair representation.

Looking forward to the next stream/video! :)

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4 hours ago, ZUHFB said:

I suggest asking @septru for ranked. He is well respected well known and a friend of biggs. I'm sure that would've been a more fair representation.

I actually reached out to @Salient after watching his video. We had a productive conversation in his discord which I recommend everyone to read by clicking his discord link in his post. 

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 448: Solo FPs for GS

Galactic Season 3 has a series of rotating objectives to complete Flashpoints. We have tips on doing them fast and doing them solo. We also speculate on when we might see 7.2 and Life Day. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-448. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

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On 11/23/2022 at 6:16 PM, septru said:

I actually reached out to @Salient after watching his video. We had a productive conversation in his discord which I recommend everyone to read by clicking his discord link in his post. 

Sorry I missed these replies here from ZUHFB and Prum (I think you two are the 2nd and 3rd replies ever in the last 5 years here :)). Yeah, Prum and I talked and I also read through what ZUHFB posted here. I've also talked to other ranked players (both before and after our take). I really appreciate hearing more takes and sides. Yeah, we come at it from a bit of an outside perspective (or just scraping the surface since I and others in our teams have done some ranked). It's certainly a complex set of issues all around. 

Top line in our discussion then and now is that any game mode that players had fun with going away is disappointing, regardless of the reasons. I do really hope some form of ranked or something that provides the same organization and rewards can come back at some point in the future. Please stay connected and let me know both how 7.2 ends up (if there's anything to salvage there for the hardcore ranked players) and we can watch what happens in the future.

Thanks

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 450: Showdown Shows Up!

The 7.2 'Showdown on Ruhnuk' hit this week and is looking great! We talk through what we've seen so far. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-450. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 451: 2022 Delivered

Kind of a lot happened this year. We take a look back! That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-451. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 452: 2023 Predictions and Wishes

Our 9th predictions and wishes show in 10 years of podcasting. We review our predictions from last year, walk through this year's predictions, and read out some from the community. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-452. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 453: Showdown Story

Our self-imposed embargo is up… it's story spoiler time. It's a bit long and a bit rambling and some of what we say is only half right but we have fun talking about the 7.2 story and what might be next. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-453. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 455: Lane and Her Dailies

We are back on Ruhnuk to meet Lane Vizla and check out the dailies. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-455. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 456: 7.2.1 On Deck

7.2.1 update has just been announced and there's a lot in there including new Galactic and PvP seasons, the 64 bit client, and economy updates. We talk about that and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-456. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 457: Ruhnuk Secrets With Kal

World boss, relics to hunt, secret achievements… the rest of Ruhnuk awaits and we brought on Kal from Today In Tor to talk about it. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-457. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 458: Ultimate Planet Tier List

We do an on-the-fly tier list ranking of 32 main planets (yes, a couple are moons) for our gut feel on art, style, lore, nostalgia, utility, etc. Very scientific, from a certain point of view. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-458. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 459: PvP Season Review

The first of the new PvP seasons is now over and our friend Thaan has completed it all, including all the achievements. We brought him on to talk about how it went, what the rewards were like, and if he'll do it again. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-459. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 460: David Staats Interview Comments  


As a follow on to our full Behind The Games interview with David Staats, we play some of the SWTOR specific bits form his time at Bioware and comment on the design, objectives, and evolution of Galactic Seasons. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-460. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org


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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 462: Welcome To Amityville

Galactic Season 4 is in full swing. We look deeper into the season objectives, rewards, and the introduction to our new season main character Amity. All that and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-462. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 463: GSF is PvP

Machete joins us to talk about PvP, "dark participation" traps that can make PvP toxic, GSF and if GSF should be part of the PvP season track in the future. All that and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-463. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 464: Deco Deets

There's a ton of good sources of decorations and with a few new strongholds in the game we figured it's a good time to check them out. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-464. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org


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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 466: 7.3 Dev Stream

The 7.3 developer live stream hit this week just in time for May The Fourth. The details are coming in hot and we break them down. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-466. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 467: 7.3 Live on the PTS

The 7.3 Content Update is live on the Public Test Server. We go check it out and see what's up in the new Voss zone and how the Voss and Gormak missions are shaking out. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-467. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 468: Live in the Shrine of Silence

We continue our look at the 7.3 content on the Public Test Server with a live dive into the new Flashpoint called the Shrine of Silence which now includes updated art for the last boss. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-468. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 469: New Player Experience in 2023

We've been having quite a few new players joining lately including our friend Lars. We talk about what it's like to be new or returning to SWTOR in 2023 and offer some tips. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-469. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 470: Just The Facts

IGN has leaked some potential news about a deal with Broadsword to take over part of SWTOR dev. There are few facts so far and we discuss a bit about what's actually known, what's not, and why this might be pretty interesting. 7.3 is also coming on Tuesday! That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-470. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

Catch the live podcast and chat room on Thursday nights around 10:30pm central at http://twitch.tv/newoverlords. Follow and subscribe on https://twitter.com/MaxTheGrey, https://www.youtube.com/newoverlords, http://www.twitch.tv/newoverlords, etc. to hear podcast news and see more.

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SWTOR Escape Pod Cast 471: 7.3 Old Wounds

7.3 is live and we get feature updates, a flashpoint and more on Voss, and, of course, an opportunity to hear directly from Malgus. That and more on this episode of The Escape Pod Cast for Star Wars The Old Republic with @AIESema, @MaxTheGrey and Astromech EPC-471. For more links, details and to chat with us join our Discord at https://newoverlords.com/discord and for AIE Guild info visit https://aie-guild.org

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