khayyinx Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I have seen people say that the PT jedis (and siths) are more powerfull than the old republic ones. Why is that? I believe that the old republic force users were as good as pt ones with the major difference that there was a lot more of them and that they were constantly in battle.For this reasons i would say that the old republic jedis and sith were a lot more suited for combat than the PT golden era jedi and sith. Palpatine himself didn't used his lightsaber for decades, and the jedi were only fighting droids and non force users.Won't even consider the new jedi order, because i don't like the post ROTJ EU and because canon may change with episode VII. The most common arguments are: 1- the jedi and sith had more knowledge in pt than or. Wrong. In fact a lot of sith knowledge was lost during the battle of rusaan with all sith death and even more with lord gravid, that destroyed tomes, artifacts and holocrons. A lot of techniques was lost, like essence transfer. The jedi never looked for secrets for power like the sith, so this isn't a good argument for them. 2- the sith was more powerfull because they wouldn't kill each other. Well, acrually they did kill each other and a lot of times they didn't even fight a honorable fight like the rule of two was supposed to have. 3- the jedi had more time to meditate, train and improve lughtsaber techniques meditation and training doesn't make better warriors than real battle. The only technique developed was vaapad which is a version of form VII. And most important, the jedi didn't had all that time to prepare, they was still in constant conflict, but with droids and mercenaries instead of real threats, like siths. So, these are my thoughts, share yours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 People who make the claim that OR > PT are usually the same ones who need to do some more ROTE era reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQordisz Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well, acrually they did kill each other and a lot of times they didn't even fight a honorable fight like the rule of two was supposed to have. The great one said to Qordis before he killed him, "Honor is for the living. Dead is dead." [PoD, p. 348] Cunning and deception were to be the ways of the Sith. An honorable fight was not in their dna. That's why the new Sith struck from the shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) As a collective whole the PT > OR Jedi Orders, just how it is. Why would they not improve over time? Doesn't make sense. Edited November 22, 2013 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 A discussion on this happened quite a while back. Feel free to read it here. I warn you its lengthy. Ultimately I feel they are more or less equal, and should really be judged by there own individual merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khayyinx Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 I didn't see any arguments in this thread. Beni was the only one posting something intersting, and i agrre with you. They are the same (altouth i tend to think OR are slightly more combat focused), with some particular differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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