ddayyy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I use cunning and cunning items seem to almost never drop. Is the droprate biased for certain classes or attribute types? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Here's how it goes for me: on an aim user: everything but aim drops on a willpower user: everything but willpower drops on a strength user: everything but strength drops on a cunning user: everything but cunning drops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steave Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 In a way, yes. As a cunning user you have the advantage that all drops with your mainstat will be usable by you, while all the other classes risk it having dps stats when you're a tank or vice versa (in other words, if anything, you're better off than anyone else). People remember bad luck much better and longer than good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I use cunning and cunning items seem to almost never drop. Is the droprate biased for certain classes or attribute types? I can never get willpower stuff to drop for my assassin, its all strength and cunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pietrastor Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 In a way, yes. As a cunning user you have the advantage that all drops with your mainstat will be usable by you, while all the other classes risk it having dps stats when you're a tank or vice versa (in other words, if anything, you're better off than anyone else). As a cunning user you also have much bigger competition from the ninajs gearing their cunning healer companions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mireleni Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) What is your group composition? As I recall, the chance of gear with a specific main stat dropping is weighted depending on the classes present. That way if you don't have any troopers in your group, you won't get a pile of Aim loot no one can use. Or if half of your group uses willpower, they won't always fight over one quarter of the loot (which is what it would be if the chance was unweighted). So if you're the only smuggler with a bunch of Jedi, yeah, you're going to see more willpower/strength loot. But if a cunning piece does drop, it's clear who gets it. If there's still less cunning loot dropping than you'd expect, that's just RNG giving you a run of bad luck. Edited November 21, 2013 by Mireleni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodan Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What is your group composition? As I recall, the chance of gear with a specific main stat dropping is weighted depending on the classes present. That way if you don't have any troopers in your group, you won't get a pile of Aim loot no one can use. Or if half of your group uses willpower, they won't always fight over one quarter of the loot (which is what it would be if the chance was unweighted). So if you're the only smuggler with a bunch of Jedi, yeah, you're going to see more willpower/strength loot. But if a cunning piece does drop, it's clear who gets it. If there's still less cunning loot dropping than you'd expect, that's just RNG giving you a run of bad luck. i thought this was only on the endgame stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallorik Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 i thought this was only on the endgame stuff I think it used to be only flashpoints, but may be in ops too now. We run two commandows and a vg tank and all we get in ops is aim lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steave Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) What is your group composition? As I recall, the chance of gear with a specific main stat dropping is weighted depending on the classes present. That way if you don't have any troopers in your group, you won't get a pile of Aim loot no one can use. Or if half of your group uses willpower, they won't always fight over one quarter of the loot (which is what it would be if the chance was unweighted). So if you're the only smuggler with a bunch of Jedi, yeah, you're going to see more willpower/strength loot. But if a cunning piece does drop, it's clear who gets it. If there's still less cunning loot dropping than you'd expect, that's just RNG giving you a run of bad luck. No, it's simply an on/off switch for the loot - strength won't drop if you have no strength users, but having 5 won't directly make it drop more (although if you have that many, chances are there's an another main stat not represented at all, meaning there's a smaller amount of other possibilities). Well, potentially having 2 could increase your chances since I'm not sure if those loot flags are triggered on base class or AC, so jugg+mara could potentially get more strength than just 1 or the other. It definitely works in ops, and have done so for a very long time. Edited November 21, 2013 by steave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta_V Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) No, it's simply an on/off switch for the loot - strength won't drop if you have no strength users, but having 5 won't directly make it drop more (although if you have that many, chances are there's an another main stat not represented at all, meaning there's a smaller amount of other possibilities). Well, potentially having 2 could increase your chances since I'm not sure if those loot flags are triggered on base class or AC, so jugg+mara could potentially get more strength than just 1 or the other. It definitely works in ops, and have done so for a very long time. I don't think the loot flags you are referring to look at AC, since on my Sentinel, I will sometimes see heavy armor w/ strength (which is Guardian gear) drop when I'm the only one in the group who uses strength. edit: And yeah, a lot of it just has to do with luck. Back when 2.0 first came out and people were just getting 69 gear, I ran multiple flashpoints everyday w/ a guildie. I was always on my sentinel (only character I had at 50), while he cycled through a bunch of toons. He managed to get his shadow tank and scoundrel healer in full 69s, and was working on his third character, before I was even close to getting full 69s on my sentinel. Everyone in my guild laughed at my inability to get strength drops, but then once I finally got full 69s, I started getting drops left and right. Some people's luck just rolls like that. Edited November 21, 2013 by Delta_V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarethRiker Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 We usually see Cunning gear drop, our Scoundrel healers and slingers are almost always geared first. One thing that is an issue that seems more unfair though is that I have yet to see anything but Cunning DPS/Heals gear drop with Power stats. Everything that drops for other classes is crit heavy, but we have seen cunning drops a few times (esp Shotguns) that have Power and that delicious Power/Surge enhancement. Has anyone seen unslotted Willpower, Str or Aim gear with Power drop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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