Aurbere Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 so aurbere what do you think should I get the 100 bonus to all ground troops save for force sensitives for Contruum with how prestigious a trade would it was and its borium mines. Depends. Considering that it is comparable to Eriadu, the real question is, does Eriadu get the bonus? Either way, I would say yes. It fits the criteria of being a world rich with resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Why doesn't Eriadu apply? The planet does have a bank. shipyard, ore material...but ok. The Black Sun had access to everything pretty much they were everywhere, and had their own army. agreed with this thanks wolf its not helping me exactly but ya all of this agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Why doesn't Eriadu apply? The planet does have a bank. shipyard, ore material...but ok. The Black Sun had access to everything pretty much they were everywhere, and had their own army. They bought their vehicles, but did you ever see them actually OWN a factory to build vehicles? As for Eriadu, it qualifies for the +50, not the + 100 as it is porminent but doesn't have a monopoly, re-read those two bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Why doesn't Eriadu apply? The planet does have a bank. MY SIDE WINZ. WE HAZ BANKZ (Remember that comment about me spouting random junk? Yeh....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) 1 world or supplier with access to a monopoly/rare or expensive minerals/huge economic resources etc: 100+ bonus to all infantry units excluding Uber units and Force sensitives. Please specify below why you feel you qualify for this before adding it to your count. NOTE: Kuat, Fondor and Coreilla recieve a 20+ frigate 5+ capital ship bonus, no infantry bonus. 1 world with considerable economic resources e.g. minerals: 50+ bonus toall infantry units excluding Uber units and Force sensitives. NOTE this is not stackable with the above. Read this everyone, this is the part we are arguing. in regards to Eriadu and Contruum. Edited May 13, 2013 by StarSquirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 MY SIDE WINZ. WE HAZ BANKZ (Remember that comment about me spouting random junk? Yeh....) It does have a financial system a ship yard and ore materials incase you missed those. But anyway w/e, so what about the other thing that everyone missed? Am I adding 200 to each thing, like Alexi= 200 and Bespin= 200 or is it Alexi and Bespin=200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) Well it's me and Selenial vs Beni at the moment, so any other council members want to vote on adding Lianna, Hapes and Yaga Minor to the top shipyards list? I provided canon reasons why earlier in the thread.I'm not sure why Hapes is on this list, as they only built one fleet of ships one time, not exactly up there with the big three (now four). I just feel if we start expanding this to other planets the bonus loses all meaning if everyone has one - and once that is passed people will start requesting that they get bonuses until before you know it everyone has a bonus because at some point or another there shipyards were mentioned to be 'big' or 'famous'. You say 7 out of 40 - but its actually more like 7 out of 12 - that's 60%. I mean really, there isn't exactly extensive evidence to suggest that these shipyards were on par with Kuat, Fondor and Coreilla. Yaga Minor are 'renowned', Lianna's Wookiee page doesn't even mention shipyards (so they can't be that famous) and Hapes only ever built one fleet. Were is the evidence to suggest they are on par with the big three? I only allowed Mon Cal because there were BAMFed in the post-ROTJ. Basically, the evidence is weak, very very weak, which means if this is passed it will be all to easy for everyone else to have their shipyards upgraded - rendering the bonus obsolete. EDIT: SFS had shipyards on Lianna, Raxus Prime and Nar Shaddaa - collectively they only rivalved Kuat - Lianna alone does not get close I'm afraid. Edited May 13, 2013 by Beniboybling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Read this everyone, this is the part we are arguing. in regards to Eriadu and Contruum. I think the second one applies. Contruum and Eriadu aren't a monopoly (imo), but they do have access to considerable resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It does have a financial system a ship yard and ore materials incase you missed those. But anyway w/e, so what about the other thing that everyone missed? Am I adding 200 to each thing, like Alexi= 200 and Bespin= 200 or is it Alexi and Bespin=200? took control of Eriadu with the intent of making it an economic powerhouse. They not only succeeded, but the economic realities caused the Seswenna sector to move its capital from Seswenna to Eriadu and reroute the Hydian Way through the planet. Eriadu's economy was so strong it forced a shift in both a capital and a major trade network.... and unlike Eriadu, Contruum did not polute itself and had Borium mines..... Don't know what Eriadu had In terms of mines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think the second one applies. Contruum and Eriadu aren't a monopoly (imo), but they do have access to considerable resources. EXACTLY!!!!! on that note I completely forgot why that clause is in there, (My Bilbringi +50 to all except Uber and force-sensitive) Frontline Infantry: Mando Cabure- 20,050 Elite Infantry: Noghri Death Commandos- 1,050 Infantry Killer: Sith Warrior (SWTOR)- 700 Light Vehicle: Basilisk War Droids- 1,050 Heavy Vehicle: Unstable Terrain Artillery Transport (UT-AT)- 550 Uber Unit: Octuptarra Magna Tri-Droid- 50 Specialist: YVH-2 S-series droids- 4,650 Medical/Repair: Stormsurgeons (Strom trooper medics)- 550 Artillery/Vehicle Killer: AT-AP- 300 Anti-Aircraft: AT-AA- 1,050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionamaster Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Am I allowed to raise the number of units in my forces? I feel kind of silly, with only 10k Frontline Infantry now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Am I allowed to raise the number of units in my forces? I feel kind of silly, with only 10k Frontline Infantry now. It is based on planet bonuses. Visit page 4(?) for the list of bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 This is my last post for the next 8 or so hours, but if I use an interdictor, do I get a special bonus for having the main manufacturing planet? LolI doubt there's sufficient evidence to show they were the main manufacturing planet to the extent needed for a bonus. Unless they really were the main manufacturing planet. But I don't want the bonuses to get toooo complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 ok so with Contruum and Eriadu both being only the +50 do we get that 50 or because it doenst stack is it just a lost bonus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 EXACTLY!!!!! on that note I completely forgot why that clause is in there, (My Bilbringi +50 to all except Uber and force-sensitive) Frontline Infantry: Mando Cabure- 20,050 Elite Infantry: Noghri Death Commandos- 1,050 Infantry Killer: Sith Warrior (SWTOR)- 700 Light Vehicle: Basilisk War Droids- 1,050 Heavy Vehicle: Unstable Terrain Artillery Transport (UT-AT)- 550 Uber Unit: Octuptarra Magna Tri-Droid- 50 Specialist: YVH-2 S-series droids- 4,650 Medical/Repair: Stormsurgeons (Strom trooper medics)- 550 Artillery/Vehicle Killer: AT-AP- 300 Anti-Aircraft: AT-AA- 1,050 OK, got that updated for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionamaster Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It is based on planet bonuses. Visit page 4(?) for the list of bonuses. Is it too late for me to relocate a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarSquirrel Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) ok so with Contruum and Eriadu both being only the +50 do we get that 50 or because it doenst stack is it just a lost bonus? Yes you add 50, the no stack is just you can't get +100 and +50 from the SAME planet Edited May 13, 2013 by StarSquirrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 the non stackable clause is a little confussing can some one clarify this for me so I get +300 from the 3 that I mentioned before do I get 350 from having contruum as well or is contruum's +50 bonus completely lost in the wind and I only get the +300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just saw the bonus/penalties rules now, I'll request the adjustments and you guys judge what of them are fair. - 1 world or supplier with access to a monopoly/rare or expensive minerals/huge economic resources etc: 100+ bonus to all infantry units excluding Uber units and Force sensitives. Please specify below why you feel you qualify for this before adding it to your count. NOTE: Kuat, Fondor and Coreilla recieve a 20+ frigate 5+ capital ship bonus, no infantry bonus. (SULLUST, SHIP BONUS)Just this one, Sullust does not qualify for a ship bonus. Only Kuat, Fondor, Coreilla and Mon Calamari (I'll update that) and I don't believe the Sullustian shipyards were particularly extensive. Everything else checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yes you add 50, the no stack is just you can't get +100 and +50 from the SAME planet ok so it is 350 thank you squirl was confused . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 Is it too late for me to relocate a bit? I don't know. I guess you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ok so would still like some help with mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Frontline infantry: Rebel spec forces- 30,350 Elite infantry: Jensaari Defenders- 575 Infantry killer: Az-series Battle Driod- 6,350 Light Vehicle:ULAV- 1,850 Heavy Vehicle: AT-TE- 1,850 Uber Unit: AT-AHT- 50 Specialist: ysanna elite- 525 medical/repair: 2-1B medical droid- 1,850 artillery: MPTL-L- 600 anti-aircraft: AT-AA- 1,350 ok updated ground troops also still wondering how to calculate my carrier and utility with them not being ships that go into hangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 EDIT: SFS had shipyards on Lianna, Raxus Prime and Nar Shaddaa - collectively they only rivalved Kuat - Lianna alone does not get close I'm afraid. Ohh beni... You know me, and you know that was a mistake I'll be changing my supplier to Raith Sienar, the owner of Sienar Fleet systems... Bringing the double bonus. I'll be changing my War Factory accordingly. Just to note.... I'm also hoping for a bonus to my Stealth Ship armada, as its noted Sienar Fleet Systems were the sole producers of this Vessel to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren-Stride Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Ta'a Chume is my supplier Queen Matriarch of the 63 planets in the hapes consortium. You cannot gain +5,000 biological troops from your supplier. Ta'a Chume does not give you +5,000 biological bonus. She is a person, not a planet. It clearly shows under the supplier bonuses that you can only get more droids, ships, or vehicles from suppliers. Not people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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