Scotland Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I read several pages of this thread before I posted and they all talked about Bolster...not the augment expoit specifically. I was uninformed on the augment bug...and I admitted that. Based on several pages I read most people were complainging about lvl 72 PvE gear being better. While I agree, that's not the way the advantage should tilt, at least that advantage is not as great as EWH to Recruit. I had to read through a couple of other threads to understand the augment bug...and I agree, that is a pretty game breaking bug. At least we're now on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 At least we're now on the same page. Now someone ELSE is going to make a post about how the three of us agree on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Now someone ELSE is going to make a post about how the three of us agree on everything. I totally agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We did have that gear... it was called War Hero & Elite War Hero. It's sickening to see what PVP has evolved into. The dev team seems to think that they need bolster to bring more people into PVP, just like their failed attempt during the Ilum Gree event. People don't "convert" to PVP... you either do it or you don't. Those that do have PVP gear, or if they don't, it's because of the stupid *** WZ commendation cap. If lowbies could save up their commendations until level 55, they'd be able to buy partisan gear at 55 and we wouldn't need the current expertise crutch known as bolster. I'm in a mostly PvE guild and most of my guildmates don't have time to grind two sets of gear. Many of them are good enough to be competitive, but don't have the gear required for it. Bolster at least lets me PvP with them and stand a chance. If PvE and PvP gear were one of the same with two means of attaining it we wouldn't see the issues everybody is now having with Bolster. Expertise, it seems, is a failed experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Then perhaps you should get informed before you post. I'm not saying this is you at all, but makes me think of the likely hundreds of thousands of voters in the US that vote for a politician without getting informed of where said politician stands on the issues first. Please, try tens of millions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersonKc Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Who is this directed at? And where in this thread is anyone complaining about a level playing field? I think you're confused Doesnt take much reading to find posts like these. Go back a few pages. I quote "I would prefer a level playing field over a gear advantage" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Doesnt take much reading to find posts like these. Go back a few pages. I quote "I would prefer a level playing field over a gear advantage" Huh, that's weird, people prefer an outcome based on team skill rather than gear..in a competitive environment? Now I've heard it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baedwulf Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) 6 pages or so happened while I slept... so in an effort to get back into the argument I would like to disagree with each and every one of you. Because I don't have the time to argue with each of you indivually... just picture me saying the exact opposite of what you said and end the sentence with "kid" or "baddie", perhaps throw in a "L2P" and a ":rolleyes:". Thank you... carry on. Edited April 26, 2013 by Baedwulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 6 pages or so happened while I slept... so in an effort to get back into the argument I would like to disagree with each and every one of you. Because I don't have the time to argue with each of you indivually... just picture me saying the exact opposite of what you said and end the sentence with "kid" or "baddie", perhaps throw in a "L2P" and a ":rolleyes:". Thank you... carry on. What, no 'lol' or 'umadubad?' Lol learn 2 troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baedwulf Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) What, no 'lol' or 'umadubad?' Lol learn 2 troll I've been banned for like 3 months. Forgive me... kinda rusty but I'll get back in the swing of things soon. Baddie... Edited April 26, 2013 by Baedwulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchito Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 6 pages or so happened while I slept... so in an effort to get back into the argument I would like to disagree with each and every one of you. Because I don't have the time to argue with each of you indivually... just picture me saying the exact opposite of what you said and end the sentence with "kid" or "baddie", perhaps throw in a "L2P" and a ":rolleyes:". Thank you... carry on. i actually do have some beef with you ... This is the Linsay Lohan of MMO's and no one should be surprised that it's broken and has numerous flaws ... How dare you. Lindsay Lohan is awesome :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baedwulf Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 i actually do have some beef with you How dare you. Lindsay Lohan is awesome :-) I actually like her too... I prefer damaged goods. I meant no disrespect to my little white trash princess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keizak Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I got too annoyed by this as well. I am simply back to PVE until they really make some changes to this bolster system where it actually works right. That probably won't happen until another 5 patches at least or another expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffersonKc Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm in a mostly PvE guild and most of my guildmates don't have time to grind two sets of gear. Many of them are good enough to be competitive, but don't have the gear required for it. Bolster at least lets me PvP with them and stand a chance. If PvE and PvP gear were one of the same with two means of attaining it we wouldn't see the issues everybody is now having with Bolster. Expertise, it seems, is a failed experiment. My pvp gear is inferior in a flashpoint, your pve gear should be the same in a battleground. You want to be competitive at anything you should have to practice and get the proper gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I actually like her too... I prefer damaged goods. I meant no disrespect to my little white trash princess. awwwwwww. yeeeaaah the troll is strong with this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 My pvp gear is inferior in a flashpoint, your pve gear should be the same in a battleground. You want to be competitive at anything you should have to practice and get the proper gear. That's why I support both sets being the same. You can earn it via PvP or PvE, but they're both the same. Make Arkanian = Partisan and Underworld = Conqueror. Different set bonus or something that slightly benefits each side of the game, but make them equal stats and get rid of Expertise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebado Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Early weekend, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Let all participate and compete. PvP based on skill over gear is what we all (should all) want. Who cares if it's a PvEer in PvP once a week. Level the field with gear and the good players will mow them down. So let's get back on track and all agree where we can agree. PvP > PvE From one of the greatest PvPers of all time: "This is the legend of Cassius Clay, The most beautiful fighter in the world today. He talks a great deal, and brags indeed-y, of a muscular punch that's incredibly speed-y. The fistic world was dull and weary, But with a champ like Liston, things had to be dreary. Then someone with color and someone with dash, Brought fight fans are runnin' with Cash. This brash young boxer is something to see And the heavyweight championship is his des-tin-y. This kid fights great; he’s got speed and endurance, But if you sign to fight him, increase your insurance. This kid's got a left; this kid's got a right, If he hit you once, you're asleep for the night. And as you lie on the floor while the ref counts ten, You’ll pray that you won’t have to fight me again. For I am the man this poem’s about, The next champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt. This I predict and I know the score, I’ll be champ of the world in ’64. When I say three, they’ll go in the third, So don’t bet against me, I’m a man of my word. He is the greatest! Yes! I am the man this poem’s about, I’ll be champ of the world, there isn’t a doubt. Here I predict Mr. Liston’s dismemberment, I’ll hit him so hard; he’ll wonder where October and November went. When I say two, there’s never a third, Standin against me is completely absurd. When Cassius says a mouse can outrun a horse, Don’t ask how; put your money where your mouse is! I AM THE GREATEST!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 This thread got off topic and is out of my hands now, what did I create.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirullrich Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 this thread got off topic and is out of my hands now, what did i create.. its alvie! Its alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 its alvie! Its alive! haha people were getting too serious (and personal) over a video game. all threads that go that route must be derailed and destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 haha people were getting too serious (and personal) over a video game. all threads that go that route must be derailed and destroyed. And avoid all confrontations, at all costs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 And avoid all confrontations, at all costs! there are no confrontations over a video game. anyone looking for one is a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baedwulf Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Personally I like agruing with strangers over the internet, whose opinions matter to me about as much as the next election in Poland. I also enjoy threatening them and challenging them to fights in real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharterMonkKent Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Personally I like agruing with strangers over the internet, whose opinions matter to me about as much as the next election in Poland. I also enjoy threatening them and challenging them to fights in real life. drop pants and measure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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