Sorry buddy regardless of what type of WZ you play 4v4 or 8v8. An objective in PVP is to KILL PEOPLE! Think about VS and AH. If the VS is a stalemate then the team with the most kills wins. Ancient Hypergate you get points for every kill you make which actually makes killing people one of the most important OBJECTIVES in AH. It's almost impossible to cap in NC or CW without killling the other team first ,unless you are a invis toon who can sap cap. Finally if two dps can kill a healer tank combo in a ranked 4v4 match why can't 5 dps kill a healer tank combo in regs? If 5 people can't kill a tank healer combo then they are just 5 not up to par dpser's.

Wait aren't you the guy who couldn't get an online girlfriend so you had to ddos people because your heart was broken. That's just sad bro. You should actually get a real life go out with REAL PEOPLE and make some real friends. O wait you can't because you spend every waking minute either on the game or on forums. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

Why do you even talk trash. You were just in our TS queuing. #hypocrit

If people are upset that they are losing to us in solo q then ask us to make a fours team. We will play any team. For the last 5 months no guild or players have queued more times in ranked 4's than our guild on server. At this point majority of our matches are guild vs. guild. We also beat every team on server against everyone's best comps. Instead of crying on forums because you are losing. Just win. This is so funny because last season the two best guilds from last season use to do the same thing, but no one cried on forums about it.

Wondering if any of the old VOSSEN or WOX players were still around. My toons names are Moubu/Gamaran. If not how is the server for ranked? Season 2 was really good on Harbinger.

Jaango whisper me on my pub toon. Renpa

Is this the REAL JAKE???

GQUIT AND CRESCENDO are no more. We merged into one guild.

Haha I'm a cowboys fan therefore we know about losing.

Sorry Bro PACKERS FANS NOT ALLOWED on server!!

Just wondering what teams are planning on trying fours this season? As much as we like to play against Clickers and Friends. It would be nice to see some other teams Q more often. If anyone is interested in playing fours just whisper anyone in G-Quit and we will try and set something up.

Dude why do you come into the forums then talk crap without even saying who you are?

Honestly I don't have set team or anything. Basically it's whoever I can find.

EXACTLY I knew I could trust you raansu. LOL

Can you say for sure that the teams would be fair if it was separated? Just because two teams of 8 are solo or premades does not mean it's fair. Again assumption and no facts. No valid argument just vague statements.

I am not claiming anything I said prove it with facts. Where are your facts. You are assuming everything. You don't know for fact who is grouped up or not. You are not asking in every warzone "are you grouped up or solo." You are just assuming. NO FACTS JUST ASSUMPTIONS. I will also tell you in season 2 I was the highest rated guardian on server. I also play on one of the best four's teams on multiple servers. I also play a **** ton of solo regs, premade regs, solo rank and group ranked. I do all aspects of pvp in this game. Even if I play every aspect of this game I still don't know in regs who is grouped up or solo. I just play and try to win. I don't need an excuse when I lose.

Dude you don't make sense. With your logic it is still 8 people that solo q and 8 people who are grouped up. That's still 8 people each. What are you even saying? It's the same amount of people. That is still 8 people for both who are q'd so how do you even tell yourself that your logic is correct?

Let me just ask you. How do you get a bigger population of players when you are splitting the population?

So what if you are personal trainer. Do you tell your clients to give up if they can't lose the weight? I coach teams who have won national championships in sports. If we quit after a few losses then we would never be national champions. You say that is bad real life advice, but how can it be bad when I basically said don't ever quit. You sure you a trainer? How is that being a tough guy? Aren't you the one taking it personal? Did I hit a nerve or something? Is telling people not to quit a bad thing? For your second paragraph. Nothing but opinion. No facts. How do you know it's only pugs who get there **** kicked in? You assuming that only pugs lose. Again opinion. If the person is losing WZ after WZ how do you know it's because of PREMADES? How do you know it's not because the player is just bad and needs to learn? Nobody knows is what I'm saying. You can only control things within your grasp. You can't just sit here and assume that your opinion is greater than anyone else's. The premade issue will never be fixed because bw/ea do not think it's important. So if you really wanted more people to play you would encourage people to group up instead of splitting the population. How does that logic even work. You want more people to play, but want to separate the players?

Until you can prove that there are more solo q' people compared to premades you have no argument. Everything you are saying is opinion driven. Not one comment is based on fact.

That just because majority of people are weak mentally and do not challenge themselves. Of course the bad experiences always stand out, but if you can over come those experiences. These are the people who will become mentally tougher in the future especially when they hit tough times. You are basically saying that if a kid is struggling in school it's okay for him to quit. NICE LOGIC MAN. Keep defending quitters bro.

what!?!?!?!!?

Sorry guys don't have a team tonight. Two people are not going to be on anymore. Hopefully tomorrow.

We will have a team sept 09 at around 8pst. Give or take a few minutes. Anybody else going to be in Q.

Lol people who cry because they lost. Playing fours on the Harbinger when the pot5 teams, bastion teams transferred over the team I ran with VOSSEN would get tank tunneled hard by the pot5 teams. I was the tank. We probably lost like the first 5-6 matches. We didn't sit there and QQ because we lost to tank tunneling we eventually figured out a way to win. We didn't win them all, but we won many of them after. People who QQ that you lost to tank tunneling because it takes no skill. Basically you just said "we lost to someone with no skill." How can anybody be proud enough to ***** about losing to someone with no skill?