KeyboardNinja Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Artorias - Jugg Hybrid- 2200DPS exactly Parse Skill Tree That is an extremely clever spec. It's too bad that it doesn't parse better. What were the issues? Rage starvation? Insufficient damage on Smash? I'll be updating the OP soon. Torparse's utter fail isn't helping. Because our parses are set by time range, we should be more or less ok as soon as they fix their database. The lack of fight detection is what is throwing me right now. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckygunslinger Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) That is an extremely clever spec. It's too bad that it doesn't parse better. What were the issues? Rage starvation? Insufficient damage on Smash? I'll be updating the OP soon. Torparse's utter fail isn't helping. Because our parses are set by time range, we should be more or less ok as soon as they fix their database. The lack of fight detection is what is throwing me right now. :-( It probably will parse better when I try it out for real XD I honestly was bored on my ship waiting for our Raid to begin so I made a Derp hybrid. There weren't actually much issues TBH and it kind of linked in well. The Ruin buff from Vengeance makes Smash free and the Dominate buff in Rage makes it Auto Crit. Use Impale as you would off CD to Proc a finished CD Ravage and Scream with 1 stack of Savagery Rather than 2 for the auto crit and just repeat, Rage gen is pretty much the same as Vengeance, bit tough but manageable. I was parsing in Shien form but I may do it again in Shii-cho and put the 3 points from Rampage into Shockwave and have the SUPER Smash on top of the Damage of Impale, but I dunno. The issue really was, not getting as much high of a burst from Rage but not getting the sustained high Damage from Vengeance either. Honestly it would be better as a PVP spec, 600DPS behind my best parse, so yeah, won't be bringing it into many raids. Edited September 25, 2013 by Luckygunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 I have added an "Overall Leaderboard" section based on boss-adjusted parse numbers using the now complete set of DPS scalars. Parses which rank in the top 5 in terms of boss-adjusted damage will be listed here and annotated in the main (non-adjusted) parse section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergabaath Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 (edited) Catheana Watchmen 36/8/2 (12:11:24 - 12:17:09) 4m 59.963s 2930.90 DPS 5m 0.549s 2941.04 DPS http://www.torparse.com/a/438966/6/0/Overview Either one beats my old parse, I'd prefer the 5m one but whichever is fine! I though I'd try doing accuracy augments and keep a higher critical multiplier I got pretty lucky with my merciless slashes this run. Full minmax 72's kell wrists, and UW SA/BA combo. Strength: 2639 Power: 1813 rating Accuracy: 100.30% 459 rating Critical: 18.21% 0 rating Critical Multiplier: 71.08% 395 rating Edited September 26, 2013 by Zergabaath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiralukaJedi Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I was wanting to give you a newer concealment parse both for here and for your calculations, but for some reason today all my parsing is going terribly. I can't sustain 3000 DPS in lethality for 5mins and even 2900 is rough. Wondering if internet is lagging or something, but I'll try and get you a concealment later in the day if it stops screwing me <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 Aveo - 3011.09 Still waiting for that parse which has even an *average* crit rate on important abilities like…Blade Rush. I still don't understand how Farius has as much surge as he does in 72s without falling below 100% accuracy (he seems to have almost exactly 76% surge, which is about 630 rating, and 80 more than I seem to have). I'm (finally) in full 72s, minus a single 69 armoring. Verpine ear. 100.44% accuracy (from ear+implants). Power augments. I botched my focus management just a hair in this parse. I'm 3 Blade Rushes short of what I usually get, with commensurately more Strikes. One Blade Storm shy of ideal (I didn't get Opportune Attack at all in the opener). Outside of the one missing Blade Storm, procs were fairly kind, since I was able to squeeze in two more Cauterizes than I normally can. Master Strike, Dispatch and Precision Slash are all right in line. APM is higher than previous parses since I opened with double Zen. Alish - Lightning (3/36/7) - 2834.36 This is very much the opposite of Aveo's parse. If I had crits this lucky with Aveo, I'd parse a 3.2k (seriously; that's what I calculated). Ros is now jealous… :-) Normally, I parse between a 2700 and a 2750 on Alish. Full min-maxed 72 mods/enhs with a 69 implant, no 4pc bonus and some 69 armorings. Underworld relics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergabaath Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I can get 100.30% accuracy / 75.89% multiplier / on Catheana just by using 2 accuracy augments and using another adept enhancement. it seems the +62 accuracy boost minus the -62 power but with the 79 surge boost the crits from how bursty combat is out weights the power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 I can get 100.30% accuracy / 75.89% multiplier / on Catheana just by using 2 accuracy augments and using another adept enhancement. it seems the +62 accuracy boost minus the -62 power but with the 79 surge boost the crits from how bursty combat is out weights the power What that's doing is trading 64 power for 79 surge. I'm not sure that's worthwhile. It would certainly make *some* parses a lot higher, but even with the auto-crit, the DR on surge is such that I don't think the average would be beneficial. Additionally, I don't think that's what Farius did, since he appears to have about 12 power more than I do (computing based on Cauterize). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 http://www.torparse.com/a/440649/7/0/Damage+Dealt 2973.96! Character: Ros'alyn | Class: Sage | Spec: 3/36/7 (Telekinetics) Finally got that one good parse. And yes, I know the time drop tool has to technically say 5:01 in order to get that 2973, but it isn't actually a full second after 5 minutes, it's only half a second. And the 5 minute mark according to TORparse is about half a second before 5 minutes. Either one is better than my current parse, but obviously I would very much prefer the one half a second after 5 minutes. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtDunn Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I believe they may be using 1 less accuracy augment, leaving their accuracy at 99.9%. I noticed this when going over the weirdly crit-high Bossofallbosses logs (before learning he just games the damage casino for brilliant 5 minutes segments), and noticing that he has an odd amount of 'misses' in a few of his parses. I suspect that they (Bossofallbosses, Farius, and a few others from our guild) get up to <1% shy of 100%, and the damage gain outweighs the almost nonexistent miss rate. I have done the same thing, and I have seen marginal increases in my output. Might account for where he's magically getting more surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiralukaJedi Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I believe they may be using 1 less accuracy augment, leaving their accuracy at 99.9%. I noticed this when going over the weirdly crit-high Bossofallbosses logs (before learning he just games the damage casino for brilliant 5 minutes segments), and noticing that he has an odd amount of 'misses' in a few of his parses. I suspect that they (Bossofallbosses, Farius, and a few others from our guild) get up to <1% shy of 100%, and the damage gain outweighs the almost nonexistent miss rate. I have done the same thing, and I have seen marginal increases in my output. Might account for where he's magically getting more surge. I do the same. I got 5 accuracy, one augment. Once I get my last 72 piece or a few 75 (or 78) I'll probably swap my skill augment back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckygunslinger Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Did that on my Jugg. 5 Accuracy Enhancements, ranging from 30's to 31's, one Accuracy Aug. With the 3% Accuracy increase in Vengeance I'm sitting at 99.82%. Worth it for the trade off of Surge I find. I'm still running the low power surge 72 enhancements so hopefully when I iron out all the issues in my gear, a bigger push will be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScytheEleven Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Did that on my Jugg. 5 Accuracy Enhancements, ranging from 30's to 31's, one Accuracy Aug. With the 3% Accuracy increase in Vengeance I'm sitting at 99.82%. Worth it for the trade off of Surge I find. I'm still running the low power surge 72 enhancements so hopefully when I iron out all the issues in my gear, a bigger push will be made. Sweet link Arty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergabaath Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I believe they may be using 1 less accuracy augment, leaving their accuracy at 99.9%. I noticed this when going over the weirdly crit-high Bossofallbosses logs (before learning he just games the damage casino for brilliant 5 minutes segments), and noticing that he has an odd amount of 'misses' in a few of his parses. I suspect that they (Bossofallbosses, Farius, and a few others from our guild) get up to <1% shy of 100%, and the damage gain outweighs the almost nonexistent miss rate. I have done the same thing, and I have seen marginal increases in my output. Might account for where he's magically getting more surge. I'm at 100.30% accuracy using 2 acc augments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 I suspect that they (Bossofallbosses, Farius, and a few others from our guild) get up to <1% shy of 100%, and the damage gain outweighs the almost nonexistent miss rate. I thought about that, but a bit of torparse dumpster diving with a 16 man TfB (I think HM) showed exactly 0% miss rate on Cauterize ticks, Blade Storm and Force Sweep out of almost 400 ticks combined. That's statistically extremely improbable, so I'm pretty sure Farius has >100% accuracy. I think Farius is actually statting the way Catheana is suggesting, with two accuracy augments and an extra adept enhancement. I looked at this from two perspectives: formal math and also other high-parsing Combat sentinels. Ranick in particular, I calculated has exactly the amount of surge I would expect for someone with three (not two) accuracy pieces, which means that he's augmented full strength/power. From a formal perspective, going with two accuracy augments and one more surge piece will increase your top-end parse potential by a fair bit, but it's also lowering your average significantly. It's more of a "swing for the fences" build. You're going to occasionally get numbers that are 50-70 DPS higher than you could have otherwise gotten, but your average is going to be about 20-25 DPS lower than optimal. I don't really like that tradeoff. Note: this actually holds true for nearly every class. Don't trade main stat / power for surge! Even at favorable exchange rates, you're just bleeding DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakell Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Parsey thingy. I know this doesn't move me anywhere, but I was disappointed in myself for not having a parse up in my main spec. Full optimized UW save the glove armoring. KD Boots and head armorings, and a KD mod somewhere. Stimmed and Adrenaled. Same spec as Bossofallbosses, he's a boss (and I'm too lazy to parse for that long). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXsgtstinkerXx Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Wanted to update Mruniverse before 2.4 at 3170.95 dps. Broke 41 apm and had awesome procs and crits. Same 2/22/22 spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakell Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Parsey. I'm posting both of these. 7 DF Mods, 3 DF armorings (not an offhand completely out of the damn comms), Shadowed implants and ear, KD relics. Stim and reusable adrenal. First one. Second one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted October 2, 2013 Author Share Posted October 2, 2013 OP has been updated. BEASTLY parse in Assault, Daha! That stands as the fourth-highest boss-adjusted DPS in the world, right behind Invinc (who was in nearly full 75s when he made his parse). Granted, you got extremely lucky crits on Charged Bolts, and pretty good crits on nearly everything else important, but still. Props and congratulations. You really should post it to the world leaderboard. They don't do boss adjustments, but even at a flat value, it would be the fourth-highest commando parse and the only assault/pyro parse on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadecounty Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Question for Tam, what would be the best relic combo now post 2.4? Would it be main stat proc / power proc? And if so, would that combo be considered bugged or working as intended (in that both can proc simultaneously)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Question for Tam, what would be the best relic combo now post 2.4? Would it be main stat proc / power proc? And if so, would that combo be considered bugged or working as intended (in that both can proc simultaneously)? The main stat proc relic is TERRIBLE. Power is very nearly as good as main stat for all classes (and better for some). If the main stat proc relic gave as much time-averaged main stat as the SA gives power, then I'd be all over it, but it falls WAY behind. Stick with SA + BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadecounty Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The main stat proc relic is TERRIBLE. Power is very nearly as good as main stat for all classes (and better for some). If the main stat proc relic gave as much time-averaged main stat as the SA gives power, then I'd be all over it, but it falls WAY behind. Stick with SA + BA. Thanks, I had a suspicion when I realized the 225 was way lower than the 625 the power proc provides and the 12/40 second window is equal to the 6/20 second window. Not to mention, most fights are designed with intended burn phases, in which case an on use relic would be more valuable anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justrickyfornow Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 http://www.torparse.com/a/447439 2/22/22 Hybrid vanguard dps.. I have 78 belt and bracers with a 78 armoring in my offhand. buy yeah 3029.38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justrickyfornow Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 http://www.torparse.com/a/447439 2/22/22 Hybrid vanguard dps.. I have 78 belt and bracers with a 78 armoring in my offhand. buy yeah 3029.38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justrickyfornow Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 http://www.torparse.com/a/450198 3048.07 same gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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