Kain_Turinbar Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mace Windu so easily defeated Palpatine I don't buy him as the "best ever" at anything other than hiding his true self. He was a master of pulling strings and orchestrating things behind the scenes but I think in terms of actual combat he was quite weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Mace Windu so easily defeated Palpatine I don't buy him as the "best ever" at anything other than hiding his true self. He was a master of pulling strings and orchestrating things behind the scenes but I think in terms of actual combat he was quite weak.Said fight was full of strings, of which Sidious pulled many i.e. he threw the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Stop, stop saying Vitiate is more powerful, stop saying that Vitiate would beat Sidious, enough with these Vitiate vs Sidious threads. It has gotten to the point, where its just making me shake my head at some of the posts people make when these two are brought up....so here in order to prove that Sidious > Vitiate here is well...some proof! =============== Quotes from Guides, Sourcebooks, Encyclopedias, etc Senses traitorous thoughts from Vader and harms him mentally. =========== Quotes from Novels Just by hologram appearance, making the planet form a storm. Feats from Novels/Comics EDIT: Scans won't show up now, but they are there. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994435-new_picture__119_.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994436-new_picture__120_.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994437-new_picture__121_.jpg Reducing a SithSpawn to ashes with Lighting. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994418-new_picture__103_.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994419-new_picture__104_.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1994420-new_picture__105_.jpg Burning 3 Darkside Prophets to their bones with just a burst of lighting. http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1773586-new_picture__95_.jpg http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/48765/1773587-new_picture__96_.jpg Killing a Stormtrooper legion(which is 8,192 men) with precision to not harm his Royal Guards. Bending Mace's blade towards his face. Overpowers Yoda's Force Absorb Killing his family without any training. Transfers Lemelisk's essence to a cloned body. Reading Vader's mind. Another show of mind reading. He feels the anger from Vader, from halfway across the galaxy. Reads Luke's thoughts and emotions. Plageuis is surprised that Sidious knew of him coming, this is Sidious when he was young. He sees through the eyes of a beast. A show of Force Choke. States he mastered Force Maelstorm which was a stepping stone for him to get to Force Storms. Force Drain on an enormous scale of billions. Through will he came back from the void, back into the physical realm. Moving faster, then Maul could follow. He appears to a blur Tenebrous, who foresaw Plagueis' death. Appearing as a blur to Anakin. Another speed feat. ====== Now I shouldn't have to post Dueling skills, because Vitiate hasn't really shown much of any. So I won't. Now there people, whatever Vitiate has done. Sidious has done and even then more(I didn't even really post the bigger things, I could have shown far more things he has done) you have multiple sources stating Sidious is the most powerful sith lord ever, so enough with this "Vitiate is close to Sidious in power." "Vitiate is the most powerful Sith Lord to exist." "Vitiate blah, blah, blah!" Enough. And then the cannon changes came along and kicked most of this evidence into a lava pit on Mustafar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falloutmike Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 For ****s sake this thread is still going? Okay sidious in my opinion was easily the better lightsaber duelist but I think that they were around equal at force abilities. And now because of the mother *********** non canonisation most of this **** does not matter so you cannot hide behind force storm on fleet, drain planet of life etc. Now according to *********** disney Palpatine was defeated by Mace windu and was not even as good as Darth Caedus (who now technically does not exist in the star wars universe but then again neither does vitiate, *********** Disney) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyurii Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 For ****s sake this thread is still going? It had lain at peace, undisturbed for nearly a year. Then you come along with your fancy book of necromancy and kicked it when it was down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 For ****s sake this thread is still going? Okay sidious in my opinion was easily the better lightsaber duelist but I think that they were around equal at force abilities. And now because of the mother *********** non canonisation most of this **** does not matter so you cannot hide behind force storm on fleet, drain planet of life etc. Now according to *********** disney Palpatine was defeated by Mace windu and was not even as good as Darth Caedus (who now technically does not exist in the star wars universe but then again neither does vitiate, *********** Disney)Wow, just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted January 30, 2015 Author Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Really?...This had to be bumped? Moreso it's amusing because even if going by the new canon....Sidious is still more powerful as per the ROTS novel. Edited January 30, 2015 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Every one knows by New Canon law Vitiate doesnt exist right??? Revan Novel is Legends cannon, I saw a a new printing the other day in Barns and Nobel big Legends tag, right acrocsed the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Dark helmet >>>sidious and vitiate for none of them ever achived ludicrous speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyurii Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Dark helmet >>>sidious and vitiate for none of them ever achived ludicrous speed. Dark Helmet never achieved ludicrous speed either. Spaceball 1 did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Dark Helmet never achieved ludicrous speed either. Spaceball 1 did. A minor technicality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcheseAMM Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 For ****s sake this thread is still going? Okay sidious in my opinion was easily the better lightsaber duelist but I think that they were around equal at force abilities. And now because of the mother *********** non canonisation most of this **** does not matter so you cannot hide behind force storm on fleet, drain planet of life etc. Now according to *********** disney Palpatine was defeated by Mace windu and was not even as good as Darth Caedus (who now technically does not exist in the star wars universe but then again neither does vitiate, *********** Disney) I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djiini Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Is the OP high? Palpatine is a powerful sith. Vitiate as he is now is a goddamn eldritch abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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