slafko Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 man, and I feel stupid sometimes for paying the 15/month sub fee... cartel packs...not even once. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGriffith Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 But again, the value of grab bags tends to be narrowly confined, with the possibility of a high outlier. The value of cartel packs, in particular this round, is not so. Look again to the OP, who clearly assigns little value to credits (I'm guessing that they are already over-burdened by them if they are regularly buying hypercrates Then again, for me the certificates don't hold any value at all. Don't need them, don't care for them. Should I come here complaining that in the second pack I opened there was a certificate instead of the item I had hoped to find? If you buy these packs for one specific, rare, item then you probably should reconsider why you are buying them and resign yourself to disappointment. Because in the end to be profitable the game needs every player to spend, on average about $15 per month. And because most f2p players do not spend much on the game at all, it means that those who do will have to spend more. Each hypercrate sold means the subcription for 3 months has been paid, or the subscription of he buyer and two moocher. And it means that to encourage players to buy these things Bioware MUST add some highly desirable but very rare things in it. They are getting better at the desirable. They are still experimenting with the rare. And anything that allows players to bypass the pack/crate system of necessity has to be both difficult and expensive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekhiun Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 shut up, dont criticize this, this is a THANK YOU from bioware do you want everything for free ? why are you even entitled to certificates. f you want give aways go to soviet russian, you are clearly a troll and has a vendetta against bioware and EA for no good reason. etc etc etc *more biodrone talk* =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekhiun Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 I am, actually. And no, I don't really care about people who post complaint threads based solely on their bad RNG. You cared enough to post on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethHoover Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 The cartel is a lottery. And you know what a lottery is, don't you? A tax on people who can't math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thylbanus Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 That's what makes them gambling packs. I got 7 in one hypercrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuQu Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Then again, for me the certificates don't hold any value at all. Don't need them, don't care for them. Should I come here complaining that in the second pack I opened there was a certificate instead of the item I had hoped to find? If you buy these packs for one specific, rare, item then you probably should reconsider why you are buying them and resign yourself to disappointment. No, because if you don't care about the certs or reputation items, then everything in the pack is exchangeable for anything else. You might only get 10k credits worth of items, or 1 million, but if the item isn't what you wanted you can sell it on the GTN and buy the item you did. I opened one since I just recently returned to the game and wanted to see what the contained. It had a mount and a weapon skin, neither of which I cared about. Selling them gave me enough credits to buy a Relaxed Jumpsuit set or a +41 level 10 crystal. Since they could be exchanged for a common currency, it was functionally identical to containing an item I did want. This is not possible if you want the certs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cidanel Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 /signed I keep wanting to ask everyone here how it feels with no lube... If you can't afford a few dollars per month then maybe you should play video games less and work more on getting a better paying job...I blow $10 on lunch every day and I am supposed to be upset over a few bucks for entertainment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy_Puppy Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well one change i want other then drop rate is make them account bound.. i didnt know that they werent after opening about 30 of them i have 2 certs on diffrent toons :-{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Well one change i want other then drop rate is make them account bound.. i didnt know that they werent after opening about 30 of them i have 2 certs on diffrent toons :-{ Next patch, they're BoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorpen Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Next patch, they're BoL Maybe next patch they should step it up, and make the rep items and certs follow the normal rule of bound for a day and a half then you can sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsheraII Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Maybe next patch they should step it up, and make the rep items and certs follow the normal rule of bound for a day and a half then you can sell them. I wouldn't mind that for the certs, but don't agree on them for the rep items. Bioware might as well not bother with the rep component at all then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHadowsan Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 you all keep buying those packs. So i can keep buying stuff for pennies on the dollar from the gtn! Keep up the good work. ^^^ this x 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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