Ullric Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi! So, I bought a PC last year to run SWTOR. Then I beefed it up with a new power supply, video card, Sound Blaster card and a Killer network card. It still runs the game perfectly at maximum settings, except in the fleet, and 16man ops is almost impossible to do. I'm thinking, is replacing the video card enough? I'll be sure to post full specs of my system here later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rezakh Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) There have been a boat load of complaints on this issue, insert anti-hero engine rage here, and there's not really much you can do about it other than trying to pick up the same hardware of folks that say they run the game flawlessly everywhere (including fleet/16 player ops). I gave up on doing ops and am just playing through the different class stories. The problems with the engine make it annoying, take all that graphics lag and couple it with the worst out of the box interface I have seen in an MMO (been playing MMO's since DAoC) and you have a nightmare on your hands. Not allowing mods and macros just means you cannot wake up from the nightmare =/...its funny though, that would actually help alleviate a lot of these issues. Hope you find something that helps your predicament. Edited January 11, 2013 by Rezakh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorill Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 My worst experience is doing anything over 8 person. Did Nightmare pilgram with like 24 people and it was terrible. I bought a new laptop with a fair graphics cars with setting at middle of the road and it still lags pretty bad with this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 UGH! So buying a new card won't help???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmymillertime Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 1. Post specs2. I build a new computer and have max settings on fleet and do not stutter when you come around the corner to the gtn. I did a fresh install of Win 7 so the game has only been patched 1 or 2 times and performance has not degraded. On my old PC, 2 updates hammered my fps and reinstalling the game from scratch fix the problem both times. Try that also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 But if it's a game issue, wouldn't it affect everything all the time?Since it's only during situations with lots of things happening on the screen, it highly suggests video card...But yeah I'll install the game fresh just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlon_Nabarlly Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 UGH! So buying a new card won't help???? It completely depends on your specs dude. You need to post what you have or we can't help. It could be you need to upgrade CPU or go SSD. We don't know if we don't know where your weak point is. I just made a computer a month or two ago. I get 40 - 60 FPS on fleet and during 16 OPs so it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebado Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 It's probably not your video card. This game is unusual in that it is more CPU intensive than processor intensive. Post yours specs or run simple diagnostics to find out what's bottle necking you in this game. It probably isn't your video card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkrbk Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi! So, I bought a PC last year to run SWTOR. Then I beefed it up with a new power supply, video card, Sound Blaster card and a Killer network card. It still runs the game perfectly at maximum settings, except in the fleet, and 16man ops is almost impossible to do. I'm thinking, is replacing the video card enough? I'll be sure to post full specs of my system here later. Did you upgrade your RAM and CPU as well? Those two items will have incredible impact on performance. When the game first came out, I had 8G of RAM, but on W7 32 bit. After I upgraded to 64 bit (so half my RAM wasn't going to waste), it made a huge difference in performance. Another thing you can try, is changing a setting in your preferences that determines how many characters around you, and in what proximity, are rendered at one time (I forgot what it's called, but it's on the bottom of the graphics settings page). I think there are 3 choices, Low, Medium and High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ok specs time! This is my machine:http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03054468&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=5172919 But that link shows it in its basic configuration.I've added RAM, it now has 16GB.It now runs Windows 8.It has a better power supply: Corsair-Gaming Series 600-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply-GS600It has a better video card: VisionTek-ATI Radeon HD 5450 2GB DDR3 PCI ExpressIt has a better sound card: PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion SeriesIt has a better network card: VisionTek Killer 2100 128 MB DDR2 PCI Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollie Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Ok specs time! This is my machine: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03054468&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=5172919 But that link shows it in its basic configuration. I've added RAM, it now has 16GB. It now runs Windows 8. It has a better power supply: Corsair-Gaming Series 600-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply-GS600 It has a better video card: VisionTek-ATI Radeon HD 5450 2GB DDR3 PCI Express It has a better sound card: PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series It has a better network card: VisionTek Killer 2100 128 MB DDR2 PCI Express The problem is your CPU for a start - you have a very slow computer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlon_Nabarlly Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 The problem is your CPU for a start - you have a very slow computer there. I second this. Your memory and vid card are actually overkill for this game, but your CPU is holding you back. I'd upgrade to a quad core with at least 3.2 Ghz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Damn. Then I'm screwed, I think. This computer already gave me a few problems upgrading the stuff I changed, because of the motherboard. Upgrading the processor might be a larger headache. I'm thinking I should get a new PC but use the RAM, video, sound and network cards from my current one. What's the best way to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlon_Nabarlly Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Damn. Then I'm screwed, I think. This computer already gave me a few problems upgrading the stuff I changed, because of the motherboard. Upgrading the processor might be a larger headache. I'm thinking I should get a new PC but use the RAM, video, sound and network cards from my current one. What's the best way to do this? You'd want to start from scratch. You can go to a site like newegg.com and put your type of memory and what slot the graphics card uses and find out what's available for those. You should be able to reuse that power supply too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Ok. So I watched a few videos and read some info on building your own PC. I've done it in the past but a LONG time ago. Surprisingly, it didn't change much. Now, I have a video board, RAM, a hard drive, network card, power supply and sound card. Which means I would need just the new case, motherboard, CPU unit, and I should be all set. I picked the top Intel CPU because I'd want this machine to last me a long time, and a compatible ASUS motherboard. Got a nice case too. I also added an SSD since it's relatively cheap (less than $200 bucks for a 128gb one), I mean, it's NOT cheap compared to a 7200RPM SATA drive but, still. The whole shebang is amounting to $1.619 on newegg.com. Now, that seems a lot for just those four parts. For $1400, I could get an alienware X51 system which is gonna come all set with everything I need, the same processor I picked, a video card that's better than mine, and a 256gb SSD instead of my 128gb one. I thought building a system was supposed to be cheaper? How the hell is four little parts more expensive than a FULL system, especially considering alienware stuff is supposedly overpriced? Also, if I do that, I'm also gonna sell my current computer parts, so it's actually gonna be even cheaper...hmmm. Edited January 12, 2013 by Ullric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullric Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 So, update on this. I switched from Intel processor, to AMD. That also means different motherboard. HOLY CRAP. The whole thing is now $683. Screw you, Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namlessone Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Hello. I ask you for advice for upgrading of mine PC. I post my PC config under spoiler and will be glad to see some help with it. Thank you. Computer Audit :: 12.01.2013 23:20:43 System Overview ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Item | Value | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Operating System | Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64-bit | | Processor Description | AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Processor, 2311MHz | | Total Memory | 7936MB | | Total Hard Drive | 466GB | | BIOS Version | Nvidia - 42302e31 Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG | Display Adapters AMD Radeon HD 6570 ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Item | Value | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Adapter Number | 1 | | Name | AMD Radeon HD 6570 | | Adapter RAM | 1024MB | | Colour Depth | 32 bit | | Vertical Resolution | 96dpi | | Current Refresh Rate | 60Hz | | Video Processor | AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x6759) | | Adapter DAC Type | Internal DAC(400MHz) | | Adapter ID | AMD Radeon HD 6570 | | BIOS | 113-AD13500-100 | ------------------------------------------------------------------ BIOS Version ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Name | Value | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | BIOS Version | Nvidia - 42302e31 Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG | | Release Date | 05/22/09 | | Video BIOS Version | | | Video BIOS Date | 03/31/11 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Processors Processor #1 Basic Information ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Item | Value | ---------------------------------------------------------------- | Processor Number | 1 | | Name | AMD Phenom 9600 Quad-Core Processor | | Short Name | Unknown | | Speed - Estimated | 2310MHz | | Speed - Registry | 2311MHz | | Processor Type | OEM Primary | | Manufacturer | Advanced Micro Devices | | Serial Number | | | APIC Physical ID | 0x00, 0x01, 0x02, 0x03 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- Detailed Information ---------------------------------------------------- | Item | Value | ---------------------------------------------------- | Processor Number | 1 | | Logical Processors | 4 | | Number Cores | 1 | | Vendor String | AuthenticAMD | | Family | 15 | | Model | 2 | | Stepping | 2 | | Extended Family | 0x01 | | Extended Model | 0x00 | | Brand ID | 0x00 | | FPU - Floating Point Unit | Yes | | VME - Virtual Mode Extensions | Yes | | DE - Debugging Extensions | Yes | | PSE - Page Size Extensions | Yes | | TSC - Time Stamp Counter | Yes | | MSR - Model Specific Registers | Yes | | PAE - Physical Address Exts. | Yes | | MCE - Machine Check Exceptions | Yes | | CX8 - Compare Exchange 8 Byte | Yes | | APIC - On Chip APIC present | Yes | | SEP - Fast System Calls | Yes | | MTRR - Memory Type Range Regs. | Yes | | PGE - Page Global Enable | Yes | | MCA - Machine Check Architecture | Yes | | CMOV - Conditional Move | Yes | | PAT - Page Attribute Table | Yes | | PSE36 - 36bit Page Size Exts | Yes | | PSN - Processor Serial Number | No | | CLFL - CLFLUSH Instruction | Yes | | DTES - Debug Trace EMON Store | No | | ACPI - ACPI Supported | No | | MMX - MMX Technology | Yes | | FXFR - Fast Save/Restore | Yes | | SSE - Streaming SIMD Exts. | Yes | | SSE2 - Streaming SIMD Exts. 2 | Yes | | SS - Selfsnoop | No | | HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology | Yes | | TM1 - Thermal Interrupt Status | No | | IA64 - 64-bit Intel | No | | PBE - Pending Break Event | No | | MMEXT - MMX+ Technology | Yes | | NOW3D - Support 3DNow! | Yes | | NOW3DEXT - Support 3DNow!+ | Yes | | SSE3 - Streaming SIMD Exts. 3 | Yes | | EST - Enhanced SpeedStep® | No | | CX16 - Compare Exchange 16 Byte | Yes | ---------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cache - Level 1 ------------------------------------- | Item | Value | ------------------------------------- | Cache Level | 1 | | Processor Number | 1 | | Unified Cache | No | | Code Size | 64KB | | Code Width | 64 Bytes | | Code Associativity | 2 | | Data Size | 64KB | | Data Width | 64 Bytes | | Data Associativity | 2 | | Unified Size | 0KB | | Unified Width | 0 Bytes | | Unified Associativity | 0 | ------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cache - Level 2 ------------------------------------- | Item | Value | ------------------------------------- | Cache Level | 2 | | Processor Number | 1 | | Unified Cache | Yes | | Code Size | 0KB | | Code Width | 0 Bytes | | Code Associativity | 0 | | Data Size | 0KB | | Data Width | 0 Bytes | | Data Associativity | 0 | | Unified Size | 512KB | | Unified Width | 64 Bytes | | Unified Associativity | 8 | ------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cache - TLB --------------------------------------- | Item | Value | --------------------------------------- | Processor Number | 1 | | Unified Cache | No | | Code Entries - 4K | 32 | | Code Associativity - 4K | Fully | | Code Entries - 4M | 16 | | Code Associativity - 4M | Fully | | Data Entries - 4K | 48 | | Data Associativity - 4K | Fully | | Data Entries - 4M | 48 | | Data Associativity - 4M | Fully | | Unified Entries - 4K | 0 | | Unified Associativity - 4K | 0 | | Unified Entries - 4M | 0 | | Unified Associativity - 4M | 0 | --------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memory -------------------------------- | Item | Value | -------------------------------- | Total Memory | 7936MB | | Free Memory | 6448MB | | Maximum Swap File | 15870MB | | Free Swap File | 13985MB | -------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Physical Disks ST3500630AS ATA Device ------------------------------------------------ | Item | Value | ------------------------------------------------ | Disk Number | 5 | | Capacity | 476937MB | | Disk Type | Fixed hard disk media | | Manufacturer | Seagate | | Model | ST3500630AS ATA Device | | Serial Number | 9QG8F0PK | | Firmware Revision | | | Controller Rank | Tertiary | | Master/Slave | Master | | Total Cylinders | 60801 | | Total Heads | 255 | | Sectors Per Track | 63 | | Buffer Size | | | SMART Supported | | | SMART Enabled | | | SMART Self Test | | ------------------------------------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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