October Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yes, If you pre-order. You will only get the 5 day early access. Welcome to the....Hickman Zone:eek: Were subscribers are ATMs...with feet. So then subscribers aren't paying for an expansion, just pre-access? Unless we want it still when we stop subscribing. Makes sense, I guess; could have been spelled out better imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 http://www.examiner.com/article/ea-and-bioware-go-back-on-promise-to-release-makeb-free-to-subscribers LOL At no point did James say it was FREEEEE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 What world are you living in. 9.99 dlc expansion are in LOTRO, AOC and a bunch of other free MMO's They just don't call them a DLC I called them that. you see the key word there, free, this game is still subscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 If their marketing people didn't call it an "expansion" I think there might be 10% less rage. I would not me perturbed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 you see the key word there, free, this game is still subscription. Subscription still have paid content releases man they always do EQ EQ2, WOW your argument holds no water man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 LOL At no point did James say it was FREEEEE!!!!!! are you sniffing something, Bioware stated that content patches are covered by subscriptions, ohlsen said this was a content patch and not an expansion, on what world do you live on where subscribers and free to play players are the same ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Subscription still have paid content releases man they always do EQ EQ2, WOW your argument holds no water man. yes they are called expansions, wow has expansions, rift has expansions, this aint an expansion on any scale, its been stated by ohlsen this isnt an expansion, the only person saying it is is hickman who 2 weeks ago in the Q&A never stated anything different. So as for holding water your leaking like a bucket with no bottom. You really gonna sit there and state that Free to play players and subscribers are in the same boat, pull the other on cos that has bells on it. Edited December 19, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 are you sniffing something, Bioware stated that content patches are covered by subscriptions, ohlsen said this was a content patch and not an expansion, on what world do you live on where subscribers and free to play players are the same ? So your taking one interview where he might of misspoke and going on that. Do you have any idea how many of those 10 min interviews they go through at those conventions? Also try reading in between the lines they pushed it back to spring to add more content. Maybe it that patch grew in size and it's not just a planet release. But you guys are going off one interview where people mis speak and sometime are allowed too. No where did he post it here as official did he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 yes they are called expansions, wow has expansions, rift has expansions, this aint an expansion on any scale, its been stated by ohlsen this isnt an expansion, the only person saying it is is hickman who 2 weeks ago in the Q&A never stated anything different. So as for holding water your leaking like a bucket with no bottom. You really gonna sit there and state that Free to play players and subscribers are in the same boat, pull the other on cos that has bells on it. LOL you wrong most of the games with 39.99 expansion are just one zone. maybe this isn't as big as some of those expansion hence why your only paying 9.99 man.. It's not rocket science. Or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So your taking one interview where he might of misspoke and going on that. Do you have any idea how many of those 10 min interviews they go through at those conventions? Also try reading in between the lines they pushed it back to spring to add more content. Maybe it that patch grew in size and it's not just a planet release. But you guys are going off one interview where people mis speak and sometime are allowed too. No where did he post it here as official did he. That was at E 3 he did multiple interviews, said the same thing each and every single time...."it was a large content patch." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So your taking one interview where he might of misspoke and going on that. Do you have any idea how many of those 10 min interviews they go through at those conventions? Also try reading in between the lines they pushed it back to spring to add more content. Maybe it that patch grew in size and it's not just a planet release. But you guys are going off one interview where people mis speak and sometime are allowed too. No where did he post it here as official did he. Ye E3 interview with a top dev isnt official at all, go away i feel my iq falling the more i read your replys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 are you sniffing something, Bioware stated that content patches are covered by subscriptions, ohlsen said this was a content patch and not an expansion, on what world do you live on where subscribers and free to play players are the same ? This is called an expansion not a content update like a new raid or WZ. I would try and read in between the lines here and assume content patch are considered smaller patches like 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 which were a ops, or WZ.. A planet that bigger than any other planet with new story lines, level cap increase, and other things to be a expansion of the game. A planet is an expansion of the game not just a small wz or ops that is an instance in fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) This is called an expansion not a content update like a new raid or WZ. I would try and read in between the lines here and assume content patch are considered smaller patches like 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 which were a ops, or WZ.. A planet that bigger than any other planet with new story lines, level cap increase, and other things to be a expansion of the game. A planet is an expansion of the game not just a small wz or ops that is an instance in fleet. Yes yes your right, everyone is wrong but you, the press, the interviews, ohlsen etc etc we get the point, in the world you live in you cant be wrong even when given the facts that say otherwise, good boy /golfclap. btw just incase that went over your head, that there is called sarcasm. Edited December 19, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well expansion could be called content it's a simple mistake to be made. MMO's have mis statement all the time. A warzone or Ops is a small content patch very small compare to the Makeb content patch.. so now we all know small content patches WZ,OPS ect are free and large content patches that we get new level,story lines ect are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Well expansion could be called content it's a simple mistake to be made. MMO's have mis statement all the time. A warzone or Ops is a small content patch very small compare to the Makeb content patch.. so now we all know small content patches WZ,OPS ect are free and large content patches that we get new level,story lines ect are not. yup so now under your understanding they can just put 2 patches together and call it an expansion, arnt you a smart boy. btw i have some magic beans here that you might be interested in. Edited December 19, 2012 by Shingara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Yes yes your right, everyone is wrong but you, the press, the interviews, ohlsen etc etc we get the point, in the world you live in you cant be wrong even when given the facts that say otherwise, good boy /golfclap. btw just incase that went over your head, that there is called sarcasm. You are wrong.. the front page that say Makeb Expansion proves it. Makeb is an expansion no a regular content update like a warzone or OPS. Hold on let me check the front page again yes yes I see it.. Makeb expansion for 9.99.. Mmmm it doesn't say it's a content patch which are free. It''s an expansion which you don't have to buy.. You can continue to play the game and all the wz and ops and not have to buy it either. you will just be locked out of that area like 100% of the expansion in other mmos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Well expansion could be called content it's a simple mistake to be made. MMO's have mis statement all the time. A warzone or Ops is a small content patch very small compare to the Makeb content patch.. so now we all know small content patches WZ,OPS ect are free and large content patches that we get new level,story lines ect are not. No we don't know. They could charge $4.99 for the next warzone or op. I mean hell it was Ok to charge for a large content update....why wouldn't you pay for a small one? Edited December 19, 2012 by Taorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 You are wrong.. the front page that say Makeb Expansion proves it. Makeb is an expansion no a regular content update like a warzone or OPS. Hold on let me check the front page again yes yes I see it.. Makeb expansion for 9.99.. Mmmm it doesn't say it's a content patch which are free. It''s an expansion which you don't have to buy.. You can continue to play the game and all the wz and ops and not have to buy it either. you will just be locked out of that area like 100% of the expansion in other mmos. lol this is magical, so if they put on the front page jesus is a dev you will take it as a given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 No we don't know. The could $4.99 for the next warzone or op. I mean hell it was Ok to charge for a large content update....why wouldn't you pay for a small one? It's simple man look at the content of Makeb and the amount of work it takes a company to make that content. A warzone or ops might take 1/10 than man power. Look at it this way Makeb very well might have started out as a free update patch 1. whatever. then they keep on adding and adding to things and it gets bigger and bigger. then they say this has some real value.. If it's the biggest planet they have made so far that is close to being the size of a couple wow expansions that have released too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mothear Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So your taking one interview where he might of misspoke and going on that. Do you have any idea how many of those 10 min interviews they go through at those conventions? Also try reading in between the lines they pushed it back to spring to add more content. Maybe it that patch grew in size and it's not just a planet release. But you guys are going off one interview where people mis speak and sometime are allowed too. No where did he post it here as official did he. So why haven't they told us what this is then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galvatron Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 So why haven't they told us what this is then? Did you read the MORE INFO TO COME statement on the news release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) It's simple man look at the content of Makeb and the amount of work it takes a company to make that content. Where can I look for the Content? Oh I can't. But they said it is huge! They also said it was an upgrade. A warzone or ops might take 1/10 than man power. Look at it this way Makeb very well might have started out as a free update patch 1. whatever. then they keep on adding and adding to things and it gets bigger and bigger. then they say this has some real value.. If it's the biggest planet they have made so far that is close to being the size of a couple wow expansions that have released too. If grasshopper's had machine guns, Birds wouldn't f**k with them. You have pointed out they have changed their mind multiple times...whats to stop them from changing it again? Edited December 19, 2012 by Taorus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taorus Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Did you read the MORE INFO TO COME statement on the news release. But they want your money...first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shingara Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 If grasshopper's had machine guns, Birds wouldn't f**k with them. You have pointed out they have changed their mind multiple times...whats to stop them from changing it again? dont worry tao, he knows whats coming simply from them saying soon, he is a mystic too now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apeth Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I've been around the MMO scene a long time and I'm pretty sure I've always paid for expansions. This one seems pretty cheap to so I'm happy with it. I don't mind paying extra for bigger content. You don't get things for free I'm affraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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