gabarooni Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Aka Luke or Yoda for example. I know she sustained herself in a force bubble in the vacum of space in one of the books I read and that seems pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Compared to Luke, she's about as significant as a padawan. Compared to Yoda, she's just an average Jedi with some pretty rare Force powers. Both of them are waaay more powerful. Luke especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Compared to Luke, she's about as significant as a padawan. Compared to Yoda, she's just an average Jedi with some pretty rare Force powers. Both of them are waaay more powerful. Luke especially. I think its more, with Luke she is a youngling and Yoda she is the padawan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 In the words of Rayla, "She is the Yoda of her time". So yeah, she's pretty amazing in her era but she isn't even near Yoda and Luke in terms of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I think its more, with Luke she is a youngling and Yoda she is the padawan. That was me trying to be generous. Maybe too generous here. lol You're right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 That was me trying to be generous. Maybe too generous here. lol You're right of course. I disagree. I think you were right when you were generous. From all we have seen about her, her powers and fighting abilities are comparable to what we see Jedi doing in the PT era. Of course she is not comparable to Yoda, but she seems definitely more than a padawan compared to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Had immense capabilities in Tutaminis as only a Jedi Knight, was a master of Battle Meditation, could destroy Harrower-class Dreadnoughts and had a type of foresight no one before her and for a long time after her had ever known. She also regularly experienced moments of oneness with the force. She could easily sit on the High Council of the Prequel trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Had immense capabilities in Tutaminis as only a Jedi Knight, was a master of Battle Meditation, could destroy Harrower-class Dreadnoughts and had a type of foresight no one before her and for a long time after her had ever known. She also regularly experienced moments of oneness with the force. She could easily sit on the High Council of the Prequel trilogy. I still don't think she is near Luke. But I see where your coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Had immense capabilities in Tutaminis as only a Jedi Knight, was a master of Battle Meditation, could destroy Harrower-class Dreadnoughts and had a type of foresight no one before her and for a long time after her had ever known. She also regularly experienced moments of oneness with the force. She could easily sit on the High Council of the Prequel trilogy. Concerning the Dreadnaughts, are you referring to what she says in the Black Talon Flashpoint? Because in contexts this part sounds more like: "I have destroyed the Dreadnaughts with my fleet." The rest is impressive. Edited October 20, 2012 by Maaruin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMe Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I disagree. I think you were right when you were generous. From all we have seen about her, her powers and fighting abilities are comparable to what we see Jedi doing in the PT era. Of course she is not comparable to Yoda, but she seems definitely more than a padawan compared to him. I would agree. Saying that she is a padawan compared to Yoda is a exaduration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airmo Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Had immense capabilities in Tutaminis as only a Jedi Knight, was a master of Battle Meditation, could destroy Harrower-class Dreadnoughts and had a type of foresight no one before her and for a long time after her had ever known. She also regularly experienced moments of oneness with the force. She could easily sit on the High Council of the Prequel trilogy. I thought oneness was a one time deal? But yeah Satele kicks all kinds of butt. Would be awesome if the Imp classes could fight her in-game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMe Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 That was me trying to be generous. Maybe too generous here. lol You're right of course. No. You should keep being "generous." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Concerning the Dreadnaughts, are you referring to what she says in the Black Talon Flashpoint? Because in contexts this part sounds more like: "I have destroyed the Dreadnaughts with my fleet." The rest is impressive. I'm actually referring to multiple bio pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I thought oneness was a one time deal? But yeah Satele kicks all kinds of butt. Would be awesome if the Imp classes could fight her in-game. No, it's rare to experience it once without dying, it's even rarer for someone to experience it a second time, she regularly experienced such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 No, it's rare to experience it once without dying, it's even rarer for someone to experience it a second time, she regularly experienced such. Not to push, but I was wondering if you could quote or show me the source of her multiple oneness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Not to push, but I was wondering if you could quote or show me the source of her multiple oneness? I second this. I don't even think Luke Skywalker has had multiple experiences of Oneness. Not to disregard your argument Rayla, which I agree with, but I always thought of Oneness as a one-time thing. I have a feeling Oneness is going to become a power that you can just do. "Oh no. I'm losing! Oneness time!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I second this. I don't even think Luke Skywalker has had multiple experiences of Oneness. Not to disregard your argument Rayla, which I agree with, but I always thought of Oneness as a one-time thing. I have a feeling Oneness is going to become a power that you can just do. "Oh no. I'm losing! Oneness time!" Ya...I find it rather strange that she would have multiple experiences, yet Luke who is far above any jedi ever has not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Not to push, but I was wondering if you could quote or show me the source of her multiple oneness? Her meditations are so deep and focused that she loses herself in the force, this is how she has unparalleled foresight making her able to almost predict the future, it says this in the SWTOR encyclopedia as well as a SWTOR release book, she also states it herself that she sometimes 'loses herself in the power of the force' which is why she almost never leaves Tython, because she fears this power could overwhelm her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I doubt your power has anything to do with achieving oneness with the force, if Jacen Solo and Darth Malgus could achieve and maintain to a degree a oneness with the Dark Side, I see no reason Satele Shan couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonSM Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I doubt your power has anything to do with achieving oneness with the force, if Jacen Solo and Darth Malgus could achieve and maintain to a degree a oneness with the Dark Side, I see no reason Satele Shan couldn't. Its her getting it multiple times that bothers me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) I doubt your power has anything to do with achieving oneness with the force, if Jacen Solo and Darth Malgus could achieve and maintain to a degree a oneness with the Dark Side, I see no reason Satele Shan couldn't. Is there any sort of explanation as to how this moment of Oneness happens? Like what triggers it? Edited October 20, 2012 by Aurbere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Its her getting it multiple times that bothers me. Perhaps I worded it incorrectly, she kind of jumps in and out of it every now and again, don't get me wrong, it's nothing like the trashes an army style of oneness Jacen Solo had, but still powerful. Edited October 21, 2012 by Rayla_Felana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMe Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I doubt your power has anything to do with achieving oneness with the force, if Jacen Solo and Darth Malgus could achieve and maintain to a degree a oneness with the Dark Side, I see no reason Satele Shan couldn't. Degree of oneness? How does one maintain oneness with the force? Could you perhaps tell me what you would define as "one with the force?" Also - where does it say that Malgus achieved oneness with the force? I read the novel, but I don't remember such a thing happening. I could be wrong, but I don't remember this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterMe Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Is there any sort of explanation as to how this moment of Oneness happens? Like what triggers it? That's a great question I would like answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 (edited) Is there any sort of explanation as to how this moment of Oneness happens? Like what triggers it? Not whatsoever, we only know it's when somebody achieves true clarity and purpose. Edited October 21, 2012 by Rayla_Felana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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