ML_DoubleTap Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Had been thinking about this for a while and decided to try it out last night. Here is the build. Lose out on Force Exaustion for Overload Saber and Searing Saber. Searing Saber along with Focussed Resonance adds 60% crit multiplier to your burns. So, if you're at 75-80% crit mult already your looking at 135% on burns. Losing FE drops the opportunity for Singularity but between Zen, Force Stasis and Valorous Call it's still around fairly often. I beat on the combat dummies for a while and then hit SM KP to test it out in the 'real world'. My Sent is an alt and doesn't have the greatest gear at this point, so numbers have a lot of room for improvement. Here is the log. Hitting 1399dps on Karagga in this gear seemed pretty solid. Surge is quite a bit lower than it should be to really take advantage of the Force Sweep and burns. So, ironing that out and getting up to black hole would be a pretty significant boost. Also, since it was my first night trying this build there's obviously some room for getting more comfortable with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Nice thoughts! I should try that too. I have similar stats but seems you pull much more dps. Glad to see people trying out something other than simple watchman spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 my question is: what form you use? Shi-co? or Juyo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 have you parsed watchman spec in the same gear? my stats are 854 bonus damage, 35% crit (without smug buf), 107% surge. i parsed your hybrid spec with this on the op dummy the result is 1300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 dude i just parsed, this spec has higher parsing result than watchman at least on my toon. can you parse both watchman and this hybrid and let me know your result? i think this spec is viable. it has the sustain of watchman and burst aoe of focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acegi Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I parsed full watchman spec (31/3/7) for 20 minutes and this hybrid for 45 minutes on the ops dummy and I ended up getting about 40 DPS more with the hybrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seektravota Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I parsed full watchman spec (31/3/7) for 20 minutes and this hybrid for 45 minutes on the ops dummy and I ended up getting about 40 DPS more with the hybrid omg! I Just parsed. this hybrid spec has higher dps! I'm full rakata on my watchman I do 1526 over 6min. Then I switched to this hybrid spec, I did 1604 over 6min. Insane!! Now forget about watchman! I'm gonna stick with this hybrid now. Not only it has higher single target damage, the aoe is also helpful in boss fights clearing adds etc. So this one will definitely do more damage than watchman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiij Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) my question is: what form you use? Shi-co? or Juyo? Was wondering the same thing. Edit: Never mind, it's pretty clear your in Shii-cho now that I look at it some more. Edited November 5, 2012 by Xiij Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanis Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Just tested it on the Puppet in T4 Gear: DPS relevant Stats: 2232 Strength 40.23 % Crit (Melee) 100.23% Accuracy (Melee) 77.54% Crit Multi (Melee) 586 BonusDmg (Melee) 47.23% Crit (Force) 110.23% Accuracy (Force) 77.54% Crit Multi 976 BonusDmg (Force) My normal Spec is: 31/7/3 ---> Taking the Defensive Abillities from the Central Tree and the 6% Crit Bonus for Force I used, all 4 Class buffs and an Exotech Stim: In My normal Spec: 6 Min Fights: 1798DPS, 1824DPS, 1845 DPS (Roundabout 100k Heal at the same time) I tried your Spec : 6Min Fights (Juyo): 1543DPS, 1489DPS,1609 DPS 6 Min Fights (Shi-Sho): 1634 DPS, 1563 DPS, 1589 DPS The Hybrid seems Crap for Endcontent Raiding. Notice I play as you see a Crit-Oriantated Wachman aka I am a dying Species, even on the European Servers. The most people nowadays stack 0 Crit and only Power as Wachmans. They do less DMG or are at least less usable in a Raid I can assure you that^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiij Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Just tested it on the Puppet in T4 Gear: DPS relevant Stats: 2232 Strength 40.23 % Crit (Melee) 100.23% Accuracy (Melee) 77.54% Crit Multi (Melee) 586 BonusDmg (Melee) 47.23% Crit (Force) 110.23% Accuracy (Force) 77.54% Crit Multi 976 BonusDmg (Force) My normal Spec is: 31/7/3 ---> Taking the Defensive Abillities from the Central Tree and the 6% Crit Bonus for Force I used, all 4 Class buffs and an Exotech Stim: In My normal Spec: 6 Min Fights: 1798DPS, 1824DPS, 1845 DPS (Roundabout 100k Heal at the same time) I tried your Spec : 6Min Fights (Juyo): 1543DPS, 1489DPS,1609 DPS 6 Min Fights (Shi-Sho): 1634 DPS, 1563 DPS, 1589 DPS I appreciate the stats and parses. This spec looks like it has potential at least; I was wondering what skill priority you were using on the hybrid spec; I wasn't able to come up with one that "suits my fancy". The Hybrid seems Crap for Endcontent Raiding. Notice I play as you see a Crit-Oriantated Wachman aka I am a dying Species, even on the European Servers. The most people nowadays stack 0 Crit and only Power as Wachmans. Yes unfortunately you are a dying breed. However, I'd like to try some more extensive parses using my gear (power stacking watchman) to see if there is a large difference in results. They do less DMG or are at least less usable in a Raid I can assure you that^^ Can you provide numbers proving this? Because I'm pretty sure this is not true; but that is an argument for another thread (like this , this, or this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanis Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Concerning Power stacked Wachmans: I had a little argument wiht another top DPS Wachman who stacked crit shortly before 1.4. arrived about who did more DPS in the End both of us with T4 100% + Stim + 4 Classbuffs went to the Puppet and hit it for 3 Fights a 6min. In the End we were both between 1750-1800 DPS, BUT I had roundbaout 400HPs and he had like 100 HPS. Yesterday when we killed Kephess on Asation HC again I looked at my healing stats just for fun in the End I did 1/5 of the Heal one of our Real Healers does:D Top DPS either way only our Commando who already got his T4.5 Weapon did a little more, well he used Adrenals which I didn´t use:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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