Sotomatic Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) I recently hit lvl 31 and I respecced to 2 points in Lingering Nightmares however the tooltip is showing the same damage. Before I was doing 620 over 6 secs and now its showing the 620 but over 8 seconds. I'm guessing its suppose to do the extra 103 per/sec but isnt reflected in the tooltip. Can anyone verify? Edited December 19, 2011 by Sotomatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onager Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) I recently hit lvl 31 and I respecced to 2 points in devour however the tooltip is showing the same damage. Before I was doing 620 over 6 secs and now its showing the 620 but over 8 seconds. I'm guessing its suppose to do the extra 103 per/sec but isnt reflected in the tooltip. Can anyone verify? I'm not in game right now, but Devour supposedly increases the amount Parasitism and Death Field heal you rather than improving their damage, according to Torhead. I'll double check it when I get ingame. Edit: You must actually be talking about Lingering Nightmares. The only way to actually know if it adds ticks without impairing its dps is to observe the damage per tick and count the ticks before and after taking the points in that talent, probably in a duel or something so it's a completely controlled environment. If Lingering Nightmares only divides the same amount of damage across more ticks, then it's not a DPS increase and should be passed over, as bare minimum you're going to break even and Crushing Darkness' duration isn't anywhere near its cooldown, so it'd be a waste of points all things considered. This really needs to be tested. Edited December 19, 2011 by Onager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Meant lingering Nightmares oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm going to run BT solo and see how much damage/tick I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 19, 2011 Author Share Posted December 19, 2011 Ok tested on a "Boss" in BT and its just a tooltip bug. The damage per/tick is the same for 6 and 8 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onager Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It damn well better be for two talent points, lol. Although on the other hand if it proved the tooltip was right, that would've been two free points to distribute elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhuf Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah I had the same question. I checked it out and it doesn't do more damage. It does the same over more time. I think the point of it was to do mor damage and it would if Crushing Darkness did damage per second instead of x damage over so much time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onager Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah I had the same question. I checked it out and it doesn't do more damage. It does the same over more time. I think the point of it was to do mor damage and it would if Crushing Darkness did damage per second instead of x damage over so much time. If the ticks each do as much damage before and after, it does do more damage technically, 33% more to be exact, by adding two more ticks. It also increases its uptime, but that's not that big of a deal since you'll still be casting it on cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhuf Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 If the ticks each do as much damage before and after, it does do more damage technically, 33% more to be exact, by adding two more ticks. It also increases its uptime, but that's not that big of a deal since you'll still be casting it on cooldown. I counted the damage of each tick and it adds up to be the same damage as before. So it does the same damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ok here what I did. I respcced to everything I had before MINUS the 2 points in Lingering Nightmares. I cast Crushing darkness on a "boss" and watch the text for each tick which was 92 dmg 6 times. After it wore off I added the 2 points to Lingering Nightmare and recast on the same "Boss" and again watched each tick do 92 damage 8 times. So it IS working correctly despite the tool tip incorrectly showing the total damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhuf Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Ok here what I did. I respcced to everything I had before MINUS the 2 points in Lingering Nightmares. I cast Crushing darkness on a "boss" and watch the text for each tick which was 92 dmg 6 times. After it wore off I added the 2 points to Lingering Nightmare and recast on the same "Boss" and again watched each tick do 92 damage 8 times. So it IS working correctly despite the tool tip incorrectly showing the total damage. So your saying that even though your ability text didn't change for how much damage it does you are doing more damage? Your ticks add up to be more than the ability shows is what you are saying? Because mine isn't. My ticks are adding up to be the number that is on the ability which is the same amount of damage as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhuf Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 And to check again if you would like a specific number. 7 ticks of 81 damage (because I only have 1 talent in Lingering Nightmares) comes to 567. Which is actually below the amount of total damage that the ability says that it will do(594). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 did you cast it on the exact same target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sotomatic Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Ignore the tool tip, its completely wrong. When I talented into it the tooltip actually went down for the total DoT. Use Crushing darkness untalented on a target and tell how much damage each tick does, ignoring any that crit. Then put the 2 points into the talent and cast again on the same target and check how much each tick does again, ignoring crits. Edited December 20, 2011 by Sotomatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastion Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 And to check again if you would like a specific number. 7 ticks of 81 damage (because I only have 1 talent in Lingering Nightmares) comes to 567. Which is actually below the amount of total damage that the ability says that it will do(594). That's called resists No skill does the exact damage on the tooltip because of the variety of innate armor and resistances the target may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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