DPS, this is what your aiming for. Best possible setup

[HileyQuiggley]

Power version, the one I'm not fond of

 

Head: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Nimble Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Crit

Advanced Battle Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Crit 57 Surge

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 82 Crit 57 Surge

 

Chest: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Nimble Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Crit

Advanced Battle Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Crit 57 Surge

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 82 Crit 57 Surge

 

Hands: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Power

Advanced Adept Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Surge

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 82 Power 57 Surge

 

Legs: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 82 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Feet: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 82 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Weapon: Custom

Advanced Reflex Barrell 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Advanced Color Crystal

41 Power

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 120 Endurance 123 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Offhand Generator: Campaign

113 Aim 93 Endurance 84 Power 57 Surge

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 131 Aim 105 Endurance 84 Power 57 Surge

 

Wrists: Custom

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Nimble Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Crit

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 93 Endurance 41 Crit

 

Belt: Custom

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

53 Aim 32 Endurance 41 Power

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 139 Aim 93 Endurance 41 Power

 

Implant #1: Black Hole Annihilator's MK-1 Enhancer

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Implant #2: Black Hole Annihilator's MK-1 Enhancer

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Earpiece: Black Hole Boltblasters MK-1 Device

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Crit 57 Surge

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Crit 57 Surge

 

Relic #1: War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages

41 Endurance 113 Power 57 Expertise

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 18 Aim 53 Endurance 113 Power 57 Expertise

 

Relic #2: War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages

41 Endurance 113 Power 57 Expertise

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Total= 18 Aim 53 Endurance 113 Power 57 Expertise

 

All Stats

Aim= 1639 Gear, 250 Base, 9% Skills, 5% Buff, 128 Exotech, 40 Datacrons (2355)

Endurance= 1414 Gear, 225 Base, 5% Buff, 40 Datacrons (1761)

Power= 862 Power (1060 Bonus Tech Damage) (730 Bonus Base Damage)

Critical= 276 (38% Base/Buffed) (39% Tech/Buffed)

Surge= 285 (75.8%)

Accuracy= 285 (99.9% Base / 109.9% Tech)

 

Fully Buffed Looking at:

2355 Aim

20350 Health

1060 Tech Damage

730 Base Damage

38% Base Crit Chance

39% Tech Crit Chance

76% Crit Multiplier

100% Accuracy Base

110% Accuracy Tech

 

 

Aim Version....

 

Head: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Adept Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Surge

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 53 Power 57 Surge

 

Chest: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Adept Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Surge

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 53 Power 57 Surge

 

Gloves: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 53 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Legs: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 53 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Feet: Rakata ect

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Initiative Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Accuracy

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 53 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Wrists: Custom

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Crit

Total= 154 Aim 102 Endurance 12 Crit

 

Belt: Custom

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Armoring 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Crit

Total= 154 Aim 102 Endurance 12 Crit

 

Weapon: Custom

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

Advanced Reflex Barrell 26

68 Aim 49 Endurance

Advanced Agile Mod 26

68 Aim 41 Endurance 12 Power

Advanced Adept Enhancement 26

27 Endurance 41 Power 57 Surge

Advanced Color Crystal

41 Power

Total= 154 Aim 129 Endurance 94 Power 57 Surge

 

Off Hand: Campaign Eliminator's Generator

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

113 Aim 93 Endurance 84 Power 57 Surge

Total= 131 Aim 105 Endurance 84 Power 57 Surge

 

Earpiece: Black Hole Boltblaster's MK-1 Device

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Crit 57 Surge

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Crit 57 Surge

 

Implant #1: Black Hole Annihilator's MK-1 Enhancer

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Implant #2: Black Hole Annihilator's MK-1 Enhancer

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

102 Aim 87 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

Total= 120 Aim 99 Endurance 71 Power 57 Accuracy

 

Relic #1: Matrix Cube M7-B3

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

66 Aim 56 Endurance 27 Crit

Total= 84 Aim 68 Endurance 27 Crit

 

Relic #2: War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages

Advanced Reflex Augment 22

18 Aim 12 Endurance

113 Power 41 Endurance

Total= 18 Aim 53 Endurance 113 Power

 

Total Combined

Aim= 1825 Gear, 250 Base, 5% Buff, 9% Gunnery, 40 Datacrons, 128 Exotech (2542)

Endurance= 1501 Gear, 225 Base, 5% Buff, 40 Datacrons (1853)

Power= 698 (685 Base Damage/ 1010 Tech Damage)

Crit= 122 (5% Gear, 15% Aim, 5% Base, 5% Buff) (Total 30%)

Surge= 285 (76% Crit Multiplyer)

Accuracy= 285 (100% Base/110% Tech)

 

Stats

2542 Aim

22,000 Health

685 Base Damage

1010 Tech Damage

30% Base Crit

35% Tech Crit

76% Surge

100% Base Accuracy

110% Tech Accuracy

 

So running the power version over Aim would add around 10% Crit chance, 15-50 Bonus damage and lose about 1500 health. All in all it looks like Power version wins out. Could lose more crit here and add more power but wouldnt be worth it. I'll still go for the max Aim for myself just because its an absolute to have. I'll add a little more crit in like the original I had up.

Edited August 18, 2012 by HileyQuiggley

[Flying-Brian]

Sorry but your itemization is wrong.

 

You should be using the Advanced Agile Mod 26 (53 aim, 32 end, 41 power), over the pvp ones you have listed.

[HileyQuiggley]

Sorry but your itemization is wrong.

 

You should be using the Advanced Agile Mod 26 (53 aim, 32 end, 41 power), over the pvp ones you have listed.

 

No, I prioritize Aim.

I do understand the extra 29 Pwr is a little better than the extra 11 Aim. But not by alot and the Aim helps Crit% and Damage. While Pwr helps Damage. That little bit of extra Crit% it adds might be a small amount buts its the overall 2525 Aim that helps alot.

Edited August 15, 2012 by HileyQuiggley

[Flying-Brian]

No, I prioritize Aim.

I do understand the extra 29 Pwr is a little better than the extra 11 Aim. But not by alot and the Aim helps Crit% and Damage. While Pwr helps Damage. That little bit of extra Crit% it adds might be a small amount buts its the overall 2525 Aim that helps alot.

 

By your build, you are gaining a little over 130-150 aim over current BiS builds (depending if you are using a cube or 2 pvp relics), but you are giving up close to 500 power. So over all you have less weapon damage, lower bonus/tech damage and lower DPS, just to get over 2500 aim.

[winkingskeever]

You should be using unlettered mods, Agile 26 or Nimble 26. These give 53 aim and 41 secondary stat, which is better than 68 aim and 12 secondary stat.

[HileyQuiggley]

By your build, you are gaining a little over 130-150 aim over current BiS builds (depending if you are using a cube or 2 pvp relics), but you are giving up close to 500 power. So over all you have less weapon damage, lower bonus/tech damage and lower DPS, just to get over 2500 aim.

 

Im not even giving up anywhere near 500 power. How can you possibly see that? Maybe if I had no Crit at all templated in. All together I might be giving up 90-120 pwr for 40-50 Aim. Thats it

 

All the while increasing Crit%, again not by a huge amount at all but neither would I be missing any dps by a huge amount at all.

The pwr shown there gives 990 Bonus tech dmg. With the added pwr in place of the Aim it might go to 1000 even. About the same kind of difference with Crit%. 1% maybe

 

Could do it your way but both even out about the same in the end.

[Flying-Brian]

Im not even giving up anywhere near 500 power. How can you possibly see that? Maybe if I had no Crit at all templated in. All together I might be giving up 90-120 pwr for 40-50 Aim. Thats it

 

All the while increasing Crit%, again not by a huge amount at all but neither would I be missing any dps by a huge amount at all.

The pwr shown there gives 990 Bonus tech dmg. With the added pwr in place of the Aim it might go to 1000 even. About the same kind of difference with Crit%. 1% maybe

 

Could do it your way but both even out about the same in the end.

 

From the stats you posted of your build, you have 551 power. The BiS builds are pushing close to,or over 1000 power fully buffed w/ stim. Yes they have lower crit, but still stay around 35% buffed.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Flying-Brian

[ArchangelLBC]

I'm sorry but those mods are wrong for PVE in about every possible way, as are some of other gear suggestions.

 

First off even IF the Aim heavy mods were better, you should go with the ones in campaign armor which have 68 aim instead of 64 because Expertise is absolutely meaningless in a PVE environment. If you just wanna get one set of gear that's one thing but you don't have enough expertise to be taken seriously in PVP, and in PVE all that expertise just says you aren't gearing correctly.

 

Secondly, I'm currently in NOT Best in Slot gear (using Rakata armoings in the chest, belt, and bracers, and using War Hero Barrel) and I already have the slightly higher crit rating and 30 points higher bonus damage (1024 Tech Bonus damage and change with exotech and not even all of the datacrons) than your supposed ideal. Why? Because I'm using the 53 Aim/41 Power or 53 Aim/41 Crit mods. Stacking aim is all well and good but you'll get better results using the mods everyone here is suggesting. Why? Because Aim isn't better than power or crit if you're trading 29 of either to get 11 more aim. It just isn't. You'll get more damage and crit rating using a 53 Aim/41 Power and 53 Aim/41 Crit mod over 68 Aim/12 Power and 68 Aim/12 Crit (which again is better than the 64 Aim mods you're currently using).

 

Conclusion? Use the 53 Aim/41 secondary stat mods. If I'm sitting at almost 300 Aim under your ideal (I'm at 2245 with exotech stim and again I'm 53 Aim in gear below my own ideal, and I haven't gotten all the datacrons either), and yet I'm 34 Tech Bonus Damage Higher with the same crit rating you're aiming for, that tells me that absolutely all of us are right in using the mods we're all recommending.

 

Other problems I see:

 

Black Hole Med Tech generator is better than Campaign (I have both).

A second War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages is better than the Matrix Cube (I have two and the Matrix Cube).

 

You can go about your business people, this isn't the gear you're looking for.

[Gyronamics]

64/41/12 mods with 30 EXP you don't use are inferior to 68/41/12 mods

 

Both are inferior to 53/41/32 mods.

 

It's not even rocket science. 68 aim 41hp 12 power is just less damaging than 53 aim 41hp 32 power.

 

 

Seriously back to that EXP, why are you bothering?

 

To use a mod with EXP you lose proper PVE stats and someone out to gank you in a real PVP set will still gank you.

Edited August 15, 2012 by Gyronamics

[HileyQuiggley]

Wow, I must have totally overlooked the 68 Aim Mods. I only have Campaign pants/Belt/OH and have bought everything else. Didnt even know there was such a Mod. So those would be better yes

 

Still not going to fit in the 53 Aim 41 Pwr mods. I prefer Aim

[Kytea]

Still not going to fit in the 53 Aim 41 Pwr mods. I prefer Aim

 

Prefer it if you will, but please don't imply or suggest that it's better.

 

1 aim is slightly better than 1 power, yes. Slightly. Arguably something like 1aim = 1.02 power, or in that ballpark, considering the aim's crit bonus and the consular 5% buff on aim.

 

29 power is much better that 11 aim. Not a question of preference. It's a technical assessment. Game mechanics.

 

The math has been done and proven, and dps empirical observations have confirmed it as well.

[oaceen]

Still not going to fit in the 53 Aim 41 Pwr mods. I prefer Aim

 

then you shouldn't make threads like this if you're just going to bury your head in the sand and ignore common sense.

 

'Best possible setup' is absolutely false, and that's not an opinion.

[Karasuko]

I'

 

You can go about your business people, this isn't the gear you're looking for.

 

Pure win would read again.

[ArchangelLBC]

Pure win would read again.

 

/bow

 

 

also OP prefer aim all you want. That doesn't make you less wrong.

[HileyQuiggley]

Its re-done for a power hungry version. I still prefer stacking Aim and will do so for myself. Im also #1 dps in OP's we run.

[ArchangelLBC]

Its re-done for a power hungry version. I still prefer stacking Aim and will do so for myself. Im also #1 dps in OP's we run.

 

I mean do what you want, but I have to ask WHY you prefer stacking aim. By your own calculations you have over 70 more bonus damage than the ideal you had listed before (1070 tech bonus damage whereas before you had 990). Your crit rating is basically the same (you could easily switch out a power enhancement for a crit enhancement if you want to get back to where you were and still have 60 more bonus damage than you had before).

 

What exact benefit do you think stacking aim at the expense of so much crit and power gives you?

[Flying-Brian]

And as it's been pointed out, the Black Hole Med Tech generator is better then the Campaign generator (I also have both, and the BH one is better).

 

You'll also get a little more damage by swapping out one mod or enhancement with crit for a power one. You would still be around 36% crit, buffed w/stim then. Since that is your max power build, you should get the most power in it you can.

 

There are specific items that are included in BiS builds, because they are the best current item that can be used. Your first build ignored these, and your new build still leaves some items out.

 

The only thing that varies between builds (that I have seen) at the BiS level is the amount of crit vs. power in the build. Some people prefer more power and others more crit. The change there is about 8% (between builds running from 32% crit to 40% crit). And at some point between those 2, is where you will be able to get the maximum amount of DPS.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Flying-Brian

[darthtrunkmonkey]

64/41/12 mods with 30 EXP you don't use are inferior to 68/41/12 mods

 

Both are inferior to 53/41/32 mods.

 

It's not even rocket science. 68 aim 41hp 12 power is just less damaging than 53 aim 41power 32hp.

 

 

Seriously back to that EXP, why are you bothering?

 

To use a mod with EXP you lose proper PVE stats and someone out to gank you in a real PVP set will still gank you.

 

slight correction

[Kytea]

. I still prefer stacking Aim and will do so for myself. .

 

Please change the thread title to "My personal preferred setup" rather than "best possible setup".

 

We acknowledge it's your preference, we respect that. There's a strong consensus that your approach does not lead to the best possible setup.

[HileyQuiggley]

Please change the thread title to "My personal preferred setup" rather than "best possible setup".

 

We acknowledge it's your preference, we respect that. There's a strong consensus that your approach does not lead to the best possible setup.

 

When I get beaten I'll change my outlook. Until then I'll keep it how it is. Its really not even close with anyone

[ArchangelLBC]

When I get beaten I'll change my outlook. Until then I'll keep it how it is. Its really not even close with anyone

 

If you've got the credits then try it for yourself is my suggestion. No one better to parse against is yourself. At least then you know things like rotation/playstyle will be more consistent. I still have to wonder WHY you have that preference. I prefer having higher crit and bonus damage personally. If you know something we don't then please share.

[HileyQuiggley]

If you've got the credits then try it for yourself is my suggestion. No one better to parse against is yourself. At least then you know things like rotation/playstyle will be more consistent. I still have to wonder WHY you have that preference. I prefer having higher crit and bonus damage personally. If you know something we don't then please share.

 

The whole thing with stacking Aim is that it gives you Damage and Crit%. The more Aim you have in your gear the less overall Crit you have to template in to reach a decent percentage. Just stacking Power in will have good damage sure but your also lowering your Crit% from Aim to where you need to template in more. Stacking Aim brings an overall better template in my opinion. Ideally if you could have 30% Crit unbuffed and 35% buffed thats what I'd aim for personally. That not very hard considering stacking Aim to its max would give you 15% right there. That leaves more room for Power, not as much as going strait for power but enough to equal it out with your Aim adding damage also.

 

This is why I prefer to stack Aim. If you dont agree with it thats fine as I see most of you dont. I posted this to try and help out. I have really never lost in dps in ops, maybe it could be better stacking power maybe not but right now its doing just fine. Im not fully complete either.

 

If you ever played DAoC and made a template for your character to get the things you wanted to fit in then you might understand. Ive built thousands over then 10 years I played and accross 9 accounts. Its something I enjoy doing. I understand Aim is only a little bit better than power with the 9% from Gunnery. Think my original posted temp had 990 Bonus damage compared to this 1060 and I was off on some mods there that could have been 68 Aim instead of the 64 I had posted. So it would be even closer and Crit would be 2-3% more if you wanted to reach 40+%. If not well hell, you'd have more room to add some power in and reach 35% crit instead.

 

To many ways a template could be made. If you wanted alacrity in or if you wanted to try and reach 50+% Crit or 80+% surge. Maybe more Accuracy or something I dont know. I'll post a few different builds after I figure out the Aim one this evening. If you dont like them you dont have to look, just build your own. The title didnt say I'm making you run this.

[Bobbyieboy]

Another big reason to stack power over looking at the crit increase it it increases your base damage. Plus in pve you don't want to be a crit chicken agro starts to become a issue.

[Easpeak]

I like the OP's style - make a thread, get people to point out his mistakes and then refuse to acknowledge those mistakes. He is the self proclaimed champion and generally most interesting man in the world.

 

P.S. I should make a thread and claim to be the best sage in the wold. Even though I do not have a sage, but if I did, I'd probably rock it. If anyone disagrees that I am not the best sage in the world, prove it wrong. Makes sense.

[HileyQuiggley]

I like the OP's style - make a thread, get people to point out his mistakes and then refuse to acknowledge those mistakes. He is the self proclaimed champion and generally most interesting man in the world.

 

P.S. I should make a thread and claim to be the best sage in the wold. Even though I do not have a sage, but if I did, I'd probably rock it. If anyone disagrees that I am not the best sage in the world, prove it wrong. Makes sense.

 

What mistakes have I not acknowledged? About me being the best Commando, well I am the best Commando so dont see what your point was there. I really dont even understand your post at all as it makes no sense.