zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) 30 min is stupid, for any mmo. 5 min tops, be WOW ot SWTOR; don't mind, if not, bad customer service. Period. A good amount of servers can manage that with a finger no its not, especially for a new game, if you have NEVER played a game exept from WoW you would not know this. Edited December 17, 2011 by zagarok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeighkub Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I am ok to wait during this early access period. One week after launch, if I have to wait more than 5 minutes in queue for my server. I will not be a happy customer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mob-wan Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 plz change the order of choosing.. let us first select the char then the server or buy more servers.... use some of the billions from the preorders to buy hardware.. i dont give a frack about the population as long as theres no que. wait till peeps reach 50 to play serverscrooge You mean billions of pesos right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonieLeg Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 i got early access on thursday and joined i server which said "light"... came on tonight, 1+ hour wait time and i gave up after 2 hours... not very fun... people say i should expect to wait... why? we live in a world of techonology these days... no one likes to wait... and why the hell should i pay (once its released) to wait in a que? i can go to the shops and wait in a que for free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinn Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 At least give a grace period for people who crash out of the game constantly (like me). Waiting an hour to get into the game and then crash after 20 min and have to wait another hour is getting really old fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 You mean billions of pesos right? since when are bioware located in south east asia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgar Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Nice, I have to spend 4 and a half hours in the queue to get into a game I pay for. But it takes bioware only 5 minutes to lock a thread where im complaining about it. Todays lesson kids: AVG waiting time to play TOR: 54 whine threads about the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamrod Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Queues longer than 10 minutes simply aren't acceptable. As much as I like this game, if they stay longer than that, I won't be staying much longer. As far as I can tell, the problem isn't the number of people logging in, it's the efficiency of the login servers. I've seen a 45 minute wait for 600 people. That means it is 4.5 seconds to process the logins of each user. Most Microsoft Domain Servers can securely authenticate in about 2 seconds. And with enough load balancing you should be able to get it down to under 1 second. The problem seems to be that Bioware doesn't want to spend the money to get the number of systems required to properly handle a load of this size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyKP Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 free? we all paid £5 for early access actually. I could be wrong, but I read the FAQ as you get billed the $5 at the time of the pre-order and then "charge(d) the remaining cost of the Game starting on December 16th", i.e. that $5 is part of the overall cost of the game - sort of a down payment - and not something over and above that cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthKaboda Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 WoW has always been much much bigger that this game, and has never experienced queues as silly as the SWTOR ones. This is a disaster, and if they don't fix it very soon it will kill the game for many players. That's funny my WoW server Bonechewer back in Vanilla days was so crowded we'd get 2-3 hour queues (over 2k people in queue) all the time. Between that and the server crashing every 3rd day or so we didn't get a ton of playing time. It was fixed later what with free server swaps and such but just seems to be the norm with MMOs that you run into this for a while. The funny thing is this server wasn't even one of the worst ones and it was this bad. Hopefully Bioware gets it straightened out sooner rather then later. But since WoW didn't die from this issue I doubt this game will although maybe with things being pretty stable in other MMOs people are just less likely to forgive this type of thing in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbstick Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 the fact is, if wow didn't have queues swtor shouldn't have queues. It came out 5 years after, if Ford made a car that didn't have a/c people would not be happy. If samsung made a cellphone without a camera on it, people would say ***. There are standards and the fact that blizzard can do it means that its at least "possible" for bioware to attempt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadin Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 That's funny my WoW server Bonechewer back in Vanilla days was so crowded we'd get 2-3 hour queues (over 2k people in queue) all the time. Between that and the server crashing every 3rd day or so we didn't get a ton of playing time. It was fixed later what with free server swaps and such but just seems to be the norm with MMOs that you run into this for a while. The funny thing is this server wasn't even one of the worst ones and it was this bad. Hopefully Bioware gets it straightened out sooner rather then later. But since WoW didn't die from this issue I doubt this game will although maybe with things being pretty stable in other MMOs people are just less likely to forgive this type of thing in this day and age. I was on Windrunner right at launch of WoW and never had queues even close to that. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Queues longer than 10 minutes simply aren't acceptable. As much as I like this game, if they stay longer than that, I won't be staying much longer. As far as I can tell, the problem isn't the number of people logging in, it's the efficiency of the login servers. I've seen a 45 minute wait for 600 people. That means it is 4.5 seconds to process the logins of each user. Most Microsoft Domain Servers can securely authenticate in about 2 seconds. And with enough load balancing you should be able to get it down to under 1 second. The problem seems to be that Bioware doesn't want to spend the money to get the number of systems required to properly handle a load of this size. you clearly havent played a new mmo then, AION had 3 hrs queues that were exact, AoC had hour queues, rift had 2 hr queues. you been stuck on WoW and expect everything to be for carebares? before the game has even launched? the max that the queues need to be is 30 mins and an exact 30 mins, not 2 hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadWalker Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Please manage the servers but DONT manage my playtime. I bought a product...i want to play. I have a finite amount of time to play. I get home from work. Kiss my old lady...i veg on my computer....i can go back to WoW if bioware wants me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 the fact is, if wow didn't have queues swtor shouldn't have queues. It came out 5 years after, if Ford made a car that didn't have a/c people would not be happy. If samsung made a cellphone without a camera on it, people would say ***. There are standards and the fact that blizzard can do it means that its at least "possible" for bioware to attempt it. o my goodness, another that hasnt played a newly released mmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinfernus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 While these queues are long even earlier in the day (Shadow Hand Full at 11:30am CST), I understand that EGA and the "30 days free access" are used to tweek the system to optimize the system once the Dev's have a better overall picture, I hope this waiting is more reasonable come January 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixit Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Sigh... Impatient kids these days... Some us are adults and infact over 40. Some us have a life with jobs, family, etc and with limited time to play each evening. So you get home, want to play and well...you can't; sit there for 3 hours out of your 4 hours of playtime? Would anyone really want to pay to wait? Is this something we should just accept? NO! Yea, we get it. You think it's fine to wait 3+ hours and make a blanket statement saying that everyone complaining is a kid. Willing to bet I am way older than you, bud. p.s. to everyone saying all MMOS have waits, while that is true....but thing is that NOT ALL SERVERS had it. Infact most didn't other than a few in all the MMOs I have played out of 10+ years. TOR is infact the first that basically has every server with a wait time of over 30 min, most are 1+ hour. Whatever man. Edited December 17, 2011 by fixit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonecak Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I just want to know if this is going to be an option? I want to move my Alts. As you can see from my profile I have been hanging out since 2008. However. to play to level 20+ and not het back in to play will chase even this avid fan away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhSnapitsYODA Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Ok now THIS is utter ******** :mad: I wait 45 minutes to get thru the Q to find out for some reason i wasnt even put in the *********** Q for the server i have toons on.....so NOW i get to wait in an even longer Q to get on the right Damn server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamrod Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 no its not, especially for a new game, if you have NEVER played a game exept from WoW you would not know this. What? I played EQ. No queues at all, even at launch, you got in right away...the servers all crashed a number of times in the first week...but they didn't have the ability to show you queues, and during peak hours, you might wait a 2 minutes to finish logging into the server. City of Heroes, day 1...no queues. Champions Online, day 1...no queues (also, no servers, so you didn't have to worry about accidentally choosing the busy server). In fact, the only time I had even heard of the concept of a server telling you that you had to wait to get in was WoW. But I didn't play it, just heard rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonVDH Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 whining leads to anger anger leads to ragequitting ragequitting leads to the dark side:wea_03: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochhi Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Once the game goes live, a queue of any amount of time is totally unacceptable, period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanoviccc Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 "Estimated waiting time: 1 hour and 45 minutes" on the Bloodworthy server... Ouch, that really stings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelthejoy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 agree'd but I'd be ok if my community lost about 600 people so our q on The Swiftsure wouldn't be so ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinn Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well I have already paid $300 for both me and my husband's CE.. so I don't know why people are saying "free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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