heikaze Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I just wanted to add that for all the complaining no one is stopping to think about the actual situation they are griping about. EVERY successful MMORPG had this issue at launch. The reason is very simple. They know exactly how many people there are going to be on considering pre-orders and such as well as typical guestimates for non-pre order sales. HOWEVER, they buy servers based on NORMAL usage. Launches are anything but normal. Almost everyone that owns the game is trying to play it all at once. The servers can't handle it. Which is why they are limited. The issue is that you can't just throw up new servers because once the flood dies down everything will feel low pop. And low pop MMO's die. So what they did was prep for what will come. Give it a little time and it will all work out. People will end their vacations, not everyone will be playing at once, and BW will add servers as needed (if they are needed), Everyone will have sexy high pop servers to enjoy. It isn't like they can just put up servers temporarily and then forcefully move everyone to other servers once they are no longer needed. That is a PR nightmare. In short... give them some time. They want this to be a success. They want us happy. Stop acting like spoiled brats of the instant gratification generation. Relax a little. They have our best interests at heart because our best interests effect their checkbook. True, but still....4 hour queues is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchyy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Offer free server transfers for those on Full Realms please! I second this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velexum Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 It would be nice if those who disconnect back to the server list get bumped back up the queue like other games have done. Nothing worse than being in a group, dc and unable to get back to that group for 20-30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoxpwns Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 So we are all stuck in the queue. people are losing it. saying this is going to be the worst explosion of nerd fury. To some of the things I have read, people are feeling the beginning of World War 3 won't be as cataclysmic as this games official release will be. The servers are using like a 5th of their instanced capacity. most everyone is 1-20. As we go through the weekend, the servers will begin spreading out. the load will start shifting off the front end, and evening out as people level up. the less people in the starting zones, the more we can fit in without servers crashing from overload. Lets think, a party of 100 people. 50 are in the front room talking, and the other 50 are waiting to get inside, but can't because of the others. as the people in the main room begin breaking off into the side rooms, more people can get inside. Seriously, just chill. This will all smooth over in a few weeks. this is not the end of the world. go get a paper sack and breathe into it. smash a hit of your inhaler or knock back some alcohol, people need to chill the f'k out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchyy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 the populations of MMOs have also DRASTICALLY increased since then... something like 100x Yes and computer hardware has gotten better since then... something like 100x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelbend Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Twiddling my thumbs and biding my time hoping to get on Swiftsure before bed time. Just hope the queue doesn't kick me and error 1002 / 1003 like it's done for today :S:(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covinus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Seriously? Have you been to an MMO launch before? This launch is one of the smoothest I have ever seen. Largely bug-free (though not totally), largely memory-leak-free (though not totally), very little server lag, and no major crashes yet. Yes, there is a queue, but it's not that bad. As was mentioned before, the SWG launch was a nightmare. The server wasn't accessible for quite a long time after launch, and the game was buggier than all get-out. Age of Conan was a frikkin nightmare. WoW was a nightmare. UO was okay, but not as smooth as this. SWG was a nightmare. Don't even get me started on Darkfall or Mortal Online. I missed the EVE launch, but from what I am told it wasn't exactly smooth. So SW:TOR has a queue. Yes, it is a problem. Yes, it will be resolved. Why do people keep acting like this is the 20th? This is not the official launch yet so please hold off judgement until that goes down. This thread is just about how they're handling the pre-orders right now since they're not really offering us early access if it takes 3-4 hours to get into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazzi Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 HAHA! This isnt a launch! This is a Pre-Launch! Tuesday is the launch and when that happens... you all will cry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortrisgall Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I just wanted to add that for all the complaining no one is stopping to think about the actual situation they are griping about. EVERY successful MMORPG had this issue at launch. The reason is very simple. They know exactly how many people there are going to be on considering pre-orders and such as well as typical guestimates for non-pre order sales. HOWEVER, they buy servers based on NORMAL usage. Launches are anything but normal. Almost everyone that owns the game is trying to play it all at once. The servers can't handle it. Which is why they are limited. The issue is that you can't just throw up new servers because once the flood dies down everything will feel low pop. And low pop MMO's die. So what they did was prep for what will come. Give it a little time and it will all work out. People will end their vacations, not everyone will be playing at once, and BW will add servers as needed (if they are needed), Everyone will have sexy high pop servers to enjoy. It isn't like they can just put up servers temporarily and then forcefully move everyone to other servers once they are no longer needed. That is a PR nightmare. In short... give them some time. They want this to be a success. They want us happy. Stop acting like spoiled brats of the instant gratification generation. Relax a little. They have our best interests at heart because our best interests effect their checkbook. The problem is the servers they have carry very small carrying capacities. They are only able to hand a couple of thousand players each. That is very low, other large MMOs have servers that can carry over 20,000 players. Then, after waiting for 2 hours to finally get into your server, you find yourself in a ghost town. I'll play without seeing another player for an hour, yet the server is full? BW needs to bump up the capacity of it's existing servers, NOT ADD MORE. There are only a couple of guilds on my server and it's barren. I hope this is not how it's going to be. Nobody likes to play on a server with tiny populations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemladic Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Seriously? Have you been to an MMO launch before? This launch is one of the smoothest I have ever seen. Largely bug-free (though not totally), largely memory-leak-free (though not totally), very little server lag, and no major crashes yet. Yes, there is a queue, but it's not that bad. As was mentioned before, the SWG launch was a nightmare. The server wasn't accessible for quite a long time after launch, and the game was buggier than all get-out. Age of Conan was a frikkin nightmare. WoW was a nightmare. UO was okay, but not as smooth as this. SWG was a nightmare. Don't even get me started on Darkfall or Mortal Online. I missed the EVE launch, but from what I am told it wasn't exactly smooth. So SW:TOR has a queue. Yes, it is a problem. Yes, it will be resolved. im only talking about the queues here and how long ppl need to wait to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Thaddeus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miban Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Really today is the first time I have experienced a queue on my server which for that I am fortunate, but I can see this being a growing problem on release and I really hope BW does expand to more servers and possibly offer free transfers, but they have to becareful not to open so many servers that it leaves "dead servers" or servers with such a low population that it's hard to get anything done, then you end up with the current state of WoW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldslove Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Any type of queue is unacceptable since we are paying customers that are paying for a game we cannot play! Refunds please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobiusptc Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. 10-20 min is reasonable....im at 2+ hour now with 843 more to go which is just barley half of what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchyy Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. Ive been waiting over 2 hours now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covinus Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. No offense but lol you haven't seen much yet then. All in all while I'm pretty damn disappointed in the way this is being handled thus far I hope Bioware can get their act together by the 20th WHEN THE GAME ACTUALLY LAUNCHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Painolympics Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 No offense but lol you haven't seen much yet then. All in all while I'm pretty damn disappointed in the way this is being handled thus far I hope Bioware can get their act together by the 20th WHEN THE GAME ACTUALLY LAUNCHES Yeah for real what are they going to do when the rest of the people who want the game go out and buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemladic Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. good for you, i live in Australia and SWTOR Unofficial Oceanic Servers are like 1 hour and 30mins plus wait. My total wait is just over 4 hours. Unofficial Oceanic PvP Shard: ‘The Swiftsure’ Unofficial Oceanic PvE Shard: ‘The Harbinger’ Secondary Oceanic PvE Shard: ‘The Jekk'Jekk Tarr’ Edited December 17, 2011 by joemladic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veldemis Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Why do people keep acting like this is the 20th? This is not the official launch yet so please hold off judgement until that goes down. This thread is just about how they're handling the pre-orders right now since they're not really offering us early access if it takes 3-4 hours to get into the game. youre fooling yourself if you think this isnt going to be way worse on launch day. instead of 4 hour queue times youll see 12 hour queue times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardcorekiller Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 just went to server login at Swiftsure I am now 1843 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daygobag Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Its so funny reading these children post about que times being so long and that it shouldnt ever happen. This game hasnt even launched yet your lucky to get to play before the game releases. Also its a computer game they bioware are workin on the issue. Do you really think they are goin to let everything as is. YOur stupid and ignorant behavior isnt goin to get the issue fixed. Relax and wait. Bioware now could also come out and give an explaination to what they are working on to get the issue fixed. That would be good on bioware end. Instead of just suggesting for people to reroll on a different server. I dont think thats a good way to fix the issue. What they should do is give free toon transfers then so everyone and thier friends dont have to reroll and start over. Also another thing they should of done is CAP the servers. Edited December 17, 2011 by Daygobag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheACow Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Its kinda crazy that its 10pm and almost every single server on the west coast is jammed. Personally not too happy with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XolituDe Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 how long do you need to be in game afk before the server kicks you off? 3.4 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvablade Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 just went to server login at Swiftsure I am now 1843 I logged in a little over 3.5 hours ago on Swiftsure... #60 in queue. Almost there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miban Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 From what i have seen the majority of queues have been less than 10 minutes or less than 20mins. Very reasonable if you ask me. Yet on my screen I see 30min on most and the longest is 1hr 55min... that is pushing reasonable. But it'll get better, it has to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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