SwigMcJigger Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I can't get this thing to work at all. It's almost entirely useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) It doesn't work in PvP. PvE only ability. Edited February 13, 2012 by Sevvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintrik Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 if you notice it says it does X damage to minor or normal targets and Y to strong targets. Players are classified as elite for abilities, so any effects on strong- targets don't work on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenbruton Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 It's entirely useless. The answer was right there Yeh its a stupid ability considering we easily have enough already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapex Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I can't get this thing to work at all. It's almost entirely useless. The point of Shoulder Slam and similar PvE-only abilities for other classes is to more "heroically" dispatch lesser enemies at higher levels so you can focus on the more dangerous threats. These abilities find a lot of use in flashpoints and heroic quests, though with the number of elites and strongs (who cannot be CC'd without blowing 45 sec+ cooldowns) in those encounters, the ability does seem to find little use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwigMcJigger Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 The point of Shoulder Slam and similar PvE-only abilities for other classes is to more "heroically" dispatch lesser enemies at higher levels so you can focus on the more dangerous threats. These abilities find a lot of use in flashpoints and heroic quests, though with the number of elites and strongs (who cannot be CC'd without blowing 45 sec+ cooldowns) in those encounters, the ability does seem to find little use. PvE only is what makes htis useless. I am not wasting a stun on a one shot mob anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assaultrooper Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 PvE only is what makes htis useless. I am not wasting a stun on a one shot mob anyways. u dont really have too... shoot explosive dart+ shoulders slam = ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapex Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 PvE only is what makes htis useless. I am not wasting a stun on a one shot mob anyways. It's more for weak and standard mobs who are easily stunned with Explosive Dart, Thermal Detonator, and Missile Blast. Other classes have the same ability that is used as a follow up to their "stuns only weak/standard enemy" attacks; for instance, Warriors/Knights can Force Charge/Leap, Savage Kick/Opportune Strike the enemy who is now rooted, then Smash/Sweep (stuns in an AOE), and Pommel Strike a high health standard/weak mob who is stunned. This basically kills 2 guys in any mob cluster so the Warrior/Knight can instead save his Rage/Focus to fight the Strong or Elite in the group. Shoulder Slam was never meant to be a PvP ability; it's meant to allow you to dispatch one enemy instantly without expending Heat, a VERY useful attack since you will be constantly outnumbered 2:3, 2:4, or 2:5 in PvE scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenbruton Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Still pretty useless. Not much survives death from above and flame sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapex Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Still pretty useless. Not much survives death from above and flame sweep. DFA has a 60 second cooldown, Shoulder Slam a 45. You should alternate so at least one is available during each pull. If you kill fast enough there will be a pull where you don't have either ability off cooldown. Edited February 14, 2012 by Mapex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwigMcJigger Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 u dont really have too... shoot explosive dart+ shoulders slam = ??? Is that the intention of the ability? Shoot a 30m range explosive dart and then rush 30m in and shoulder slam? This ability should be made especially for use on elites and for pvp where it would be an advantageous situational KAPOW ability. As it is now it only works on mobs that die from a good hit from standard blaster fire. Honestly, it seems like an ability placeholder until BW figures out something useful to put in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordeguy Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) It's only use is saving you from blowing a short cooldown (punch, unload, rail and such) on a weak enemy. You don't really need to even bother binding it, or putting it on your bar at all. Like people said though it's somewhat useful in FPs. Is that the intention of the ability? Shoot a 30m range explosive dart and then rush 30m in and shoulder slam? This ability should be made especially for use on elites and for pvp where it would be an advantageous situational KAPOW ability. As it is now it only works on mobs that die from a good hit from standard blaster fire. Honestly, it seems like an ability placeholder until BW figures out something useful to put in its place. In fairness all classes have these skills, they have a niche use and that's it. They'll probably never be changed because they have such a specific use and it's something all classes share in some form. Edited February 14, 2012 by Mordeguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthiel Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 i dont use any of those attacks any class has would hate to get used to a tool on a toon only to hit pvp and the rotations your used to all have a weak spot were a skill was that no longer works i'd rather not get used to using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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