Anyone using Rage spec for PvE?

[Vennge]

I am a bit tired of using anni for PvE and then feel restricted on keeping up my buffs when I go PvP, much more comfortable with Rage, but I am a bit annoyed constantly going back and fourth with respec, does anyone use Rage for PvE at all? I mean operation/HM wise or is it a complete gimp.

[Kodokai]

I am a bit tired of using anni for PvE and then feel restricted on keeping up my buffs when I go PvP, much more comfortable with Rage, but I am a bit annoyed constantly going back and fourth with respec, does anyone use Rage for PvE at all? I mean operation/HM wise or is it a complete gimp.

 

Tried, felt disgustingly poor then switch back to annie but i guess its each to their own.

[Sayc]

I am a bit tired of using anni for PvE and then feel restricted on keeping up my buffs when I go PvP, much more comfortable with Rage, but I am a bit annoyed constantly going back and fourth with respec, does anyone use Rage for PvE at all? I mean operation/HM wise or is it a complete gimp.

 

Plenty of anecdotes from the various competent rage supporters on these forums that they do just fine with it in PvE. My experience was that it sucked, but I didn't put enough time into rage spec(nor was I well geared when I did try it) to really give my experience all that much weight.

[xDreegan]

It worked a bit better on my Jugg because of Heavy Armor. But it's pretty much all about using Force Crush on whatever mob is strongest, and hitting Smash.

[Ethern]

I am a bit tired of using anni for PvE and then feel restricted on keeping up my buffs when I go PvP, much more comfortable with Rage, but I am a bit annoyed constantly going back and fourth with respec, does anyone use Rage for PvE at all? I mean operation/HM wise or is it a complete gimp.

I'm using it for PvE.

-Your main attack is smash. It is an auto 3K crit if the rotation is done correctly.

-You ignore 20% of the enemy's armour

-The spec takes more advantage of force powers. Spam force choke, force crush, force scream -> profit.

-It's a very nervous playstyle.

-Try it.

 

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=47978guide here (not updated)

[Hizoka]

I am a bit tired of using anni for PvE and then feel restricted on keeping up my buffs when I go PvP, much more comfortable with Rage, but I am a bit annoyed constantly going back and fourth with respec, does anyone use Rage for PvE at all? I mean operation/HM wise or is it a complete gimp.

 

good players don't go rage for anything.

[Sayc]

I'm using it for PvE.

-Your main attack is smash. It is an auto 3K crit if the rotation is done correctly.

-You ignore 20% of the enemy's armour

-The spec takes more advantage of force powers. Spam force choke, force crush, force scream -> profit.

-It's a very nervous playstyle.

-Try it.

 

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=47978guide here (not updated)

 

The issue is that you're only getting that smash ~4 times a minute.

[CrazyAl]

good players don't go rage for anything.

 

bad players think only 1 spec is good

[Hizoka]

bad players think only 1 spec is good

 

never said there was only 1 good spec, only said good players don't play rage.

[Tumri]

As much as I hate to agree with Hizoka it's pretty much true. Using Rage in PvE for current content is like using a cardboard axe to chop down a tree. The only time Rage will be good in PvE is when there is a raid encounter that requires a disgusting amount of AoE throughout the fight.

[EvilFD]

Exactly. I absolutely love rage and its my go to spec for PVP BUT, if you're using it for PVE you're gimping yourself. With the future annihilation buff coming out soon I think using anything else for end-game isn't as viable.

 

Now, if you're only do HM Flashpoints (the Rage AOE can make trash clearing a breeze) or even normal mode ops you're probably fine with Rage if that's what you really wanna do. For HM Ops and NM ops I wouldn't use it though.

[Ethern]

good players don't go rage for anything.

Good players don't make such statements without combat logs back up.

[Carbonated]

I always thought that force attacks dont compare against armor only resistances and that the 20% armor pen in the tree is just like some sort of sick joke.

[Ridisi]

Good players don't make such statements without combat logs back up.

 

You don't need combat logs to understand basic math.

[gibmachine]

With the future annihilation buff coming out soon I think using anything else for end-game isn't as viable.

Buff eh?

[Ethern]

You don't need combat logs to understand basic math.

Show those basic maths then.

All I see is posts claiming how underpowerd is Rage for PvE with no proof at all; wasting everybody's time.

[Hizoka]

Good players don't make such statements without combat logs back up.

 

if you were good at the class you wouldn't need the math to know rage sucks

[Ethern]

if you were good at the class you wouldn't need the math to know rage sucks

I'm better than you. Proof? I bring as much proof as you do. And if you can't use a rage spe for PvE properly, then it's obvious you're terrible.

Now we can go on with this childish exchange, or you can you know, back up your claims as previously suggested. But don't bother, I know such proofs will never come.

[Fierze]

I'm better than you. Proof? I bring as much proof as you do. And if you can't use a rage spe for PvE properly, then it's obvious you're terrible.

Now we can go on with this childish exchange, or you can you know, back up your claims as previously suggested. But don't bother, I know such proofs will never come.

 

3k smash crits tells me that theres a HIIIIIGH chance Hizoka is better than you ^^

Nothing personal, just sayin

Edited February 5, 2012 by Fierze

[Ethern]

3k smash crits tells me that theres a HIIIIIGH chance Hizoka is better than you ^^

Nothing personal, just sayin

Huh?

And it has been proven many times that Hizoka was saying BS since Beta, so if he is better than us, we're all terrible.

[Bloodymoon]

Still, 3k crits is terrible, not good.

[Ethern]

Still, 3k crits is terrible, not good.

Well it's a minimum. When you're properly geared, there is no way you dps as low. That's just nitpicking at this point.

[Kibaken]

Well it's a minimum. When you're properly geared, there is no way you dps as low. That's just nitpicking at this point.

 

Yes, there is. Rage has almost no sustain in-between the Hulk Smashes. It's just very lackluster in PvE.

 

Annihilation has the throughput due to it being based around constant damage dealing and Carnage has probably the best in-between Burst damage of any burst spec I've seen (probably minus the original alpha strike my escort used to do in STO back in the day; dropping cruisers in 3.5 seconds ooooooooogod D:

 

It's just not as good. Can you use it and do fine? Yeah; you just won't be doing as much damage as you could as another spec. It's not like the content is so hard that min/maxing out the @ss is completely necessary.

Edited February 5, 2012 by Kibaken

[Darkpassenger]

I use Rage and I do an abundant amount of damage. My smash hits for 4.5k, this class is viable for PvE with a proper rotation. Without Com Logs we aren't going to know which tree is dominant. Although Anni is getting a substantial increase to its damage capability. I'm staying with what I know until someone gives me numbers.

[Ethern]

Yes, there is. Rage has almost no sustain in-between the Hulk Smashes. It's just very lackluster in PvE.

 

Annihilation has the throughput due to it being based around constant damage dealing and Carnage has probably the best in-between Burst damage of any burst spec I've seen (probably minus the original alpha strike my escort used to do in STO back in the day; dropping cruisers in 3.5 seconds ooooooooogod D:

 

It's just not as good. Can you use it and do fine? Yeah; you just won't be doing as much damage as you could as another spec. It's not like the content is so hard that min/maxing out the @ss is completely necessary.

I see no downtime in the dps, except when I'm less careful with my rotation. When Shockwave, dominate and smash are unavailable, we still have two talents boosting Vicious Slash, which ability I combine with rupture. Force scream and quick recovery really does not let room for real dps shortage. I was specc'ed annihilation, and my results is that my dps was slightly better. Labeling this spec as a lackluster is a bit too much.

 

Secondly, we have only three spe. If you really like using force powers, and not fan of the dots playstyle nor the carnage tree synergy, Rage is there. Marauders are already paying their love for dual wielding with an overall more complex gameplay. Now if you impose an annihilation or carnage playstyle for PvE in addition, you have me out.

Edited February 5, 2012 by Ethern