Sakes Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 May I suggest an alternate game more to your skill level? http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VNS4VT29L._SL500_AA300_.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Is there a link stating wave invites over a period of days depending on pre order dates? If so i shoulda read better but i read what was in my face and that definetly wasn't and i have pre ordered and played many ega releases and this has never happened before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Ladies & Gentleman, clearly 5 days was posted in the sentence. If it makes you all feel intelligent correcting this poor chap who just wants to play the game. Cuddos to you, I on the other hand take gaming seriously and don't enjoy scam marketing campaigns in games. Sure it works well in fast food or business corporations but were talking about a video game here.. Quite sad really. Imagine this: You will gain Early Game Access five days before the official game launch date Nice and simple it's KUDOS and what marketing scam?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcrist Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pretty hard to slice that wording as anything other than misleading advertising. I'm quite sure that some sort of compensation from Bioware/EA will have to be made to anyone who isn't allowed in today. Most countries in the EU have fairly strict rules concerning advertising and I think a reasonable person reading the pre-launch advert would reasonably be expected to be allowed to play today...the 15th, 5 days prior to launch on the 20th. -Gooney IT IS NOT MISLEADING. It is clear, concise, and its happening exactly as stated. Its been explained ad nauseum. Any reasonable person had read the advertisement and understood completely that he or she MIGHT get 5 days of early access. No where does it say that everyone will get all 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 May I suggest an alternate game more to your skill level? http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VNS4VT29L._SL500_AA300_.jpg Nah, they would fail miserably...then start to ask for addons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyParticular Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Can someone explain to me why he is complaining he didn't get in 6 days early? 6 is more than 5 last I checked and there is a good chance he will get in today, which of course would be 5 days early.. But yes, "up to" 5 days early means that it COULD be less than that. It is not Bioware's fault all he ready was "5 days early" because that's NOT what was stated. When you win the lottery, you could win "up to" a (depending) million dollars. That does not mean you should QQ every time you win the lottery because you didn't get the whole million. Edited December 15, 2011 by NobodyParticular added more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurav Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Early Game Access* will begin on December 13th at 7:00AM EST, 2011 and ends on December 19th, 2011 at 10:01PM EST. During this time, we will be emailing invitations to join Early Game Access based on the order in which you redeemed your Pre-Order Code. Pre-load the game client now, so you're ready to play when your Early Game Access invitation arrives. Note that download time can vary and may take awhile. There ya go. this was the pre-order email everyone recieved. I highlighted the sentence for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Upto five days to the mmo community means due to tech difficulties not this crap, the games is fine but only some people can play today, maybe you tommorow or the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pretty hard to slice that wording as anything other than misleading advertising. I'm quite sure that some sort of compensation from Bioware/EA will have to be made to anyone who isn't allowed in today. Most countries in the EU have fairly strict rules concerning advertising and I think a reasonable person reading the pre-launch advert would reasonably be expected to be allowed to play today...the 15th, 5 days prior to launch on the 20th. -Gooney Maybe some in Europe would not understand the "english" phase..."Up to"? Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrii Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The statement is not misleading, its deceptive marketing. clever wording. up to = may but up to looks better and is easily missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Pre orders started in july when was that sent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcrist Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The statement is not misleading, its deceptive marketing. clever wording. up to = may but up to looks better and is easily missed Its not deceptive marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryV Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hey, JerryV, please come back in here and explain what was misrepresented by Bioware! Convince us that your arguement is just and you are correct, instead of running and hiding after your drive-by posts. I'm sorry about you if you can't get it. Everyone who wait this game and read about yearly access announce said "you will able up to 5 days early" expect access on 5 days yearly not four, not three or one days. Isn't it? The only reason why I got preordered this game is early access announce. Sure thing I read about UP TO. But I didn't expect that UP TO to be on 4,3,2 or 1 days before launch. It's a trap! © Typical and cheap. Why they didn't say the truth about waves and other crap like that in announce of early access. And you know why? Of corse you know. They would never get so many pre-order sales in November/December in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Upto five days to the mmo community means due to tech difficulties not this crap, the games is fine but only some people can play today, maybe you tommorow or the next. From the email I got BEFORE preordering: • Early Game Access - create your character and explore the universe first. • The order in which you purchase and redeem your Pre-Order Code is the order in which you will gain early access to the game, prior to official launch day. • A unique Color Stone to change your weapon effect - only available via pre-order. Hope this helps.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekatze Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Here's at least one of their official announcements, that I easily located in about 30 seconds under the "News and Articles" link, stating that early access would be in order of pre-order date. It's from the first week of November. http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20111104-0 I also received an email on December 6th giving the same details stated in the above article, and informing me of the early access start date and email notification. December 6th is very late for an announcement, I will admit, but it's not like this whole early access thing was "pulled over" on you or a fraud or anything. I'm sure there were other press releases and forum posts that I don't care to take more time to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bach-Purge Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) Hey you arm chair lawyers and grammer experts. Advertising boldly a 5 day pre-play period and then adding the two words "up to" in the small print in the paragraph below still constitutes "bait n switch" advertising. The average consumer isn't expected to be responsible for technicalities and loopholes fully lawyered suppliers can throw at them. Now no one is going to take anyone to court over 1 day. But this isn't exactly what I would call "off to a good start" on Biowares part with some of its customers. Edited December 15, 2011 by Bach-Purge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I imagine that they will let everyone in today because its ********, we preorder to get in early with everyone, i can see the extra 2 days of staggering players is fine but open the gates today no reason not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurav Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm sorry about you if you can't get it. Everyone who wait this game and read about yearly access announce said "you will able up to 5 days early" expect access on 5 days yearly not four, not three or one days. Isn't it? The only reason why I got preordered this game is early access announce. Sure thing I read about UP TO. But I didn't expect that UP TO to be on 4,3,2 or 1 days before launch. It's a trap! © Typical and cheap. Why they didn't say the truth about waves and other crap like that in announce of early access. And you know why? Of corse you know. They would never get so many pre-order sales in November/December in that case. I understood it perfectly well. View my post above about the EGA email. that also states it in a different way in hopes that people understand. I am deffinately getting tired of the same posts about people not being able to comprehend what is clearly stated. It's like buying a car then later complaining that you have to pay interest because you did not read the agrrement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobodyParticular Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 TODAY is 5 days. TODAY. Can you not wait to complain until after you know for sure you are not getting in today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutharex Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 The statement is not misleading, its deceptive marketing. clever wording. up to = may but up to looks better and is easily missed I beg to differ, MAY and MAYBE have a different meaning to UP TO The first 2 indicate that something might or might not happen (as in, you could play 5 days earlier or not); while the second means YOU WILL PLAY X NUMBER OF DAYS EARLIER WHERE X EQUALS A NUMBER BETWEEN 1 AND 5 so where is the false advertising? Really, I think you should sue EA, because I want to see you lose the trial and have to pay court expenses and getting counter sued for slander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcrist Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm sorry about you if you can't get it. Everyone who wait this game and read about yearly access announce said "you will able up to 5 days early" expect access on 5 days yearly not four, not three or one days. Isn't it? The only reason why I got preordered this game is early access announce. Sure thing I read about UP TO. But I didn't expect that UP TO to be on 4,3,2 or 1 days before launch. It's a trap! © Typical and cheap. Why they didn't say the truth about waves and other crap like that in announce of early access. And you know why? Of corse you know. They would never get so many pre-order sales in November/December in that case. Oh that's bull. Everyone who "wait this game" and read about early access annouce said that "you will be able UP TO 5 DAYS early...should be expecting to play from 1 to 5 days early. NOT 5 EXACT DAYS EARLY. I get it. You and the others think that they are entitled to more that was promised. Insulting Bioware and anyone else that understood, completely, is your way of lashing out at your own weaknesses and lack of comprehension. They stated exactly the way it was going to happen, and its happening exactly the way they stated it would. Bioware did not lie, did not lay a trap, is not practicing bad marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcrist Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hey you arm chair lawyers and grammer experts. Advertising boldly a 5 day pre-play period and then adding the two words "up to" in the small print in the paragraph below still constitutes "bait n switch" advertising. The average consumer isn't expected to be responsible for technicalities and loopholes fully lawyered suppliers can throw at them. Now no one is going to take anyone to court over 1 day. But this isn't exactly what I would call "off to a good start" on Biowares part with some of its customers. Hey, Mr. Armchair Lawyer. No it doesn't. The two statements were inclusive of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrii Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Its not deceptive marketing. yes it is, since the add ran well into december, when they knew that dec preorders wouldnt get in 5 days early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasco Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hey you arm chair lawyers and grammer experts. Advertising boldly a 5 day pre-play period and then adding the two words "up to" in the small print in the paragraph below still constitutes "bait n switch" advertising. The average consumer isn't expected to be responsible for technicalities and loopholes fully lawyered suppliers can throw at them. Now no one is going to take anyone to court over 1 day. But this isn't exactly what I would call "off to a good start" on Biowares part with some of its customers. Well said, many angry people, the only happy people are the ones in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bach-Purge Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) I understood it perfectly well. View my post above about the EGA email. that also states it in a different way in hopes that people understand. I am deffinately getting tired of the same posts about people not being able to comprehend what is clearly stated. It's like buying a car then later complaining that you have to pay interest because you did not read the agrrement. Bad analogy. Loan interests are an openly negotiated point of the sale. This is more like the salesmen telling you you can come by tommarrow and pick the car up. Only when you get there the next day and not get the car because the dealership shows you fine print. That fine print saying that they don't have to honor what the salesmen lead you to believe. Edited December 15, 2011 by Bach-Purge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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