Skapek-Skocap Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) put tracer on a 5 second cooldown, problem solved. good bh's say tracer round is only used as part of a rotation so a short cooldown won't won't bother them bad bh's say tracer rounds aren't op so it won't bother them either. win win Wrong Wrong. Our entire setup revolves around Tracer Missile and the stacking effects it has. If you nerf Tracer Missile, you need to decrease the reliance of our other abilities in contrast. I literally can't stand people who call for nerfs and have never played the class and have no idea about the class. Stop calling for Nerfs and LRN2PLAY! If you want to beat Tracer Missile, all you need to do is Interrupt, CC, Stun, Knockbacks, and use LOS. Nearly every ability we have (Arsenal) take a summoning time, and you want to nerf us? You people will literally be the death of this game if you don't stop whining about every damn class in the game being too powerful. uh-oh sounds like somebody's a tracer spammer! I can't believe the ignorance of some people... Edited January 31, 2012 by Skapek-Skocap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimso Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Wrong Wrong. Our entire setup revolves around Tracer Missile and the stacking effects it has. If you nerf Tracer Missile, you need to decrease the reliance of our other abilities in contrast. I literally can't stand people who call for nerfs and have never played the class and have no idea about the class. Stop calling for Nerfs and LRN2PLAY! If you want to beat Tracer Missile, all you need to do is Interrupt, CC, Stun, Knockbacks, and use LOS. Nearly every ability we have (Arsenal) take a summoning time, and you want to nerf us? You people will literally be the death of this game if you don't stop whining about every damn class in the game being too powerful. I can't believe the ignorance of some people... nope you're wrong, bioware doesn't have to do anything bioware gutted concealment ops and gave NOTHING in return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoL-K-Noob Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 With the right gear, tracer missile hits for 3k+ every 1.5 seconds not to mention the hard hitting heatseeker missile and rail shot. A nerf is comming, its just a matter of when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) With the right gear, tracer missile hits for 3k+ every 1.5 seconds not to mention the hard hitting heatseeker missile and rail shot. A nerf is comming, its just a matter of when. Crit 3k you mean, it will only hit 3k with buff stacking and the warzone expertise buff. Edited January 31, 2012 by mutee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoL-K-Noob Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Crit 3k you mean, it will only hit 3k with buff stacking and the warzone expertise buff. Nope, crits 3k+ without relic,expertise, adrenal. Stop lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Nope, crits 3k+ without relic,expertise, adrenal. Stop lying. There's a difference between a hit and a crit, i said they hit 3k crits and only do 3k hits (non crits) with buff stacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceUpercutt Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 nerf tracer and buff my other damn skills then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimso Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 nerf tracer and buff my other damn skills then that's what concealment ops said about hidden strike/jarring strike and look where it got us enjoy your upcoming nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalnar Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Do not nerf tracer, just make it more complex ! One button classes shouldn't happen, and if so, they should have the WORST performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 that's what concealment ops said about hidden strike/jarring strike and look where it got us enjoy your upcoming nerf It won't happen, stop being a butthurt OP now that you'll no longer be able to kill people in a stun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceUpercutt Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 that's what concealment ops said about hidden strike/jarring strike and look where it got us enjoy your upcoming nerf its okay, i got a sorc as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordiMordi Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Well if it were up to me I'd let it crit for 4k. Would be just a good noobfilter. And no one mentions my 2 grandpas....such a mess searching for a beard in thousands of barts...and no one cares *sniff*. How hard is it to get a smiley today...mean mean world ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoL-K-Noob Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 its okay, i got a sorc as well That will be next after Tracer Missile. They allready nerfing Salvation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceUpercutt Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 That will be next after Tracer Missile. They allready nerfing Salvation. well after warriors get nerfed, we will be back to where we started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTyrantXerxis Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I would spam it ... if the animation wasn't completely retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimso Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 It won't happen, stop being a butthurt OP now that you'll no longer be able to kill people in a stun. rofl stop kidding yourself baddie, its gonna happen and there's nothing you can do about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mutee Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 rofl stop kidding yourself baddie, its gonna happen and there's nothing you can do about it No it won't, OP's didn't get nerfed due to the QQ from people, they got nerfed due to an oversight, infact it was more of a fix than a nerf, they were doing more damage that intended. Go watch the totalhalibut interview with the lead pvp dev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimso Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 No it won't, OP's didn't get nerfed due to the QQ from people, they got nerfed due to an oversight, infact it was more of a fix than a nerf, they were doing more damage that intended. Go watch the totalhalibut interview with the lead pvp dev. lol if you think the nerf wasn't from all the qq'ing and some nitwit "suddenly" had a "revelation" i don't know what to tell you "oh F-----k, we completely forgot to tone down ops burst dps... oops" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniWes Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Oh and here is some quick little math based on the lol video in wich he fights lowbies. Let us assume the opponents have 15k life. At 2500 a shot *critical* he would take 9 seconds of pure cast time to kill someone. At a more realistic non critical attacks 1300 or so per shot he would take more than 20 seconds of uninterrupted straight casting to kill someone. You really going to ignore someone for that long you deserve to lose *And fyi those calculations are assuming the opponent stands still, does not use any abilities or los.* If tracer missile would crit for 2500 max, nobody would have a problem with it. Fact is however, even against my Operative with 520 expertise it easily crits for 3k to 3.5k Additionally they have 2 knockbacks, a snare, a powerful shield that also prevents them from being interrupted /GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassawp Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Oh my ... Like killing a tracer spammer is actually difficult ... People QQing about this just suck as much as people spamming a single skill. 1 on 1 you just need to interrupt them... not enough ? stun ... not enough ? CC again. The spammer aint dead after that ? Just learn to play. If they're so noobish they won't even understand what's happening after the first interrupt and probably run away. Well if there are two of them against you, you're pretty scr***, but it would happen with any other class. Sniper POV... Out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dookies Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 If tracer missile would crit for 2500 max, nobody would have a problem with it. Fact is however, even against my Operative with 520 expertise it easily crits for 3k to 3.5k Additionally they have 2 knockbacks, a snare, a powerful shield that also prevents them from being interrupted /GG Oh no a class can hit hard when his cooldowns are probably popped oh no! And even worse...he has more abilities like stuns and CC? This is preposterous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryptorchid Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) 22222222222222222222 Edit: Sorry, didn't realize my game minimized! Edited January 31, 2012 by Kryptorchid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swaggz Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 <3 tracer spammers! BANG!->BANG!->counter->confused o.o->BA- uh noez los broken!-> more confusion! ->maybe...BAN- dammit los broken! -> totally confused->lets try to...BA- down by dots =( Reminds me totally of this little piece http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEi0OyOgZ4s HAHAHA...as a Merc I endorse this message. Just goes to show that; 1. Someone with a pulse know's how to counter one of the easiest classes in the game to counter. 2. A good majority of Mercs get confused when you get in close. We have a limited amount of abilities to get us out of this situation and if most are on CD...well...some of us try to run run run to the nearest healer. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elorei Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The funniest part of this whole discussion is watching the defenders of the tracer missile spam make up ways to counter it. LOS the BH. Use interrupt, then stun, then a knockback, so then you can use your interrupt again, not the stun though, thats now on cooldown. All to counter a skill that has no colldown, hits like a truck. So, the premise of the defense is, use a bunch of skills with cooldowns and completely outplay the tracer spammer and you *MIGHT* win? Then what about tracer spammer number 2? 3? 6? There is no drawback to spamming it. There is only a marginally more effective way to play it. Defense against it takes coordination and MANY skills, many of which have brutally long cooldowns. If you think this skill won't be nerfed, you are crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skapek-Skocap Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 The funniest part of this whole discussion is watching the defenders of the tracer missile spam make up ways to counter it. LOS the BH. Use interrupt, then stun, then a knockback, so then you can use your interrupt again, not the stun though, thats now on cooldown. All to counter a skill that has no colldown, hits like a truck. So, the premise of the defense is, use a bunch of skills with cooldowns and completely outplay the tracer spammer and you *MIGHT* win? Then what about tracer spammer number 2? 3? 6? There is no drawback to spamming it. There is only a marginally more effective way to play it. Defense against it takes coordination and MANY skills, many of which have brutally long cooldowns. If you think this skill won't be nerfed, you are crazy. If you can't kill someone just using tracer missile, you need to /uninstall the game. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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