shahmat Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I know the fast answer is all 3 is viable... But while I know that ST will allow me to take on 2+ Heroics the kill rate will be slower, would the trash mobs be faster with Pyro as a lvling spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarramanga Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ST is slower to kill mobs but less downtime thanks to Mako and the lack of damage you take. Pyro kills mobs faster but you'll take more damage doing it meaning longer downtime. ST has been a really fun and really simple levelling game for me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namdle Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I can only speak up until 30s, but - Pyro was fun (I have a soft spot for proc builds in any game), killed well, but I switched to ST in order to find FP groups easier and i can tell you at least through mid 30s, I haven't noticed a significant difference in how quickly a mob dies, but I have noticed a difference in my lack of downtime. If you're already higher than that, sorry for the unhelpful post. If you're not, I'd definitely try out ST. Once you start proccing Rocket Punches, you'll start looking like you're playing Street Fighter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysun Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pyro up till the mobs get tougher - Alderaan.. then once there you may need to respec to ST so you dont die as fast.. again I've leveled to 27 with Pyro only and will start dipping into the ST tree. I've played a Merc in beta to 44+ so Pyro imo is similar to leveling a Merc without the self heals but you have shield so .. since Bh's get Mako so early, both are great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuleh Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Question, if you lvl as ST, Mako should be all out dps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theangryllama Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Question, if you lvl as ST, Mako should be all out dps? Keep mako as heals if you use her. You kill slower but you end with 80-90% health on all fights. To speed things up bring out gault and pimp him up with gear while you tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prunetracy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm level 47 and have been pyro since 22. I can't solo heroic 2+, but I do feel like my killing speed is much higher. I dabbled in shield tech a couple times, once at 30 for jet charge, and once at 40 when I could fill the tree out. Jet charge is a fun skill, I just didn't like the st playstyle as much as pyro. Survivability was way higher. There were a few fights as st where I'm not sure I would have survived as pyro, but I still went back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilithak Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ST is safer, Pyro is faster. Choose wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I played pyro from the start all the way to 50 (though I did try ST and AP once or twice while leveling but just didn't like how they played so I switched back to pyro pretty quick) and never had any problems. I just kept Mako in decent gear and never had any issues and very little down time. No I couldn't do heroic +2's though I never actually tried since it wasn't that hard to find just one other person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrys Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ST is safer, Pyro is faster. Choose wisely. Does pyro get a runspeed or something? ST kills rediculously fast to 20 at least where I've gotten my alt. Although I can see how incendiary missile and superheated rail post 20 to early 30 when mobs start being harder could speed things up a good bit on silvers and golds. And since my alt is right there I might as well experiment with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharagada Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Does pyro get a runspeed or something? ST kills rediculously fast to 20 at least where I've gotten my alt. Although I can see how incendiary missile and superheated rail post 20 to early 30 when mobs start being harder could speed things up a good bit on silvers and golds. And since my alt is right there I might as well experiment with that. Nope, biggest weakness of the spec is that it has no mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhbet Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was ST until 30 then changed to Pyro and never looked back. It's good spec for leveling, you might not solo 2+ heroics but all other quests are easily doable with Mako. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRGodshall Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pyro got very squishy the moment I hit Alderaan at level 29. If you get unlucky with PPA procs, things can be rough. I switched to ST and it's a lot smoother now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doozzer Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I prefer to use the spec that is light on downtime and quick on kill time. shieldtech. using Mako. TO CRAFT. Seriously, use your DPS companions. Gault and Torian both wreck everything if you give them a little gear love. "What about downtime after the fight?" There isn't any. I hit recharge/reload for the 30% health that I lost over the course of the fight and I'm right back in it. Finishing a fight at 100% with Mako takes to long, its better to just have a killy companion out and sit on the recharge button. What you lose recharging does not even compare to what you gain in killing speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romir Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I've found pyrotech to be an incredible leveling spec. The damage and survivability with Mako has been incredible. Its taken me 2 days, 4 hours, and 38 minutes to get to level 40. That was with enough pvp to get the full set of level 40 gear too, which slowed down the leveling. 100% soloing, no FPs or heroics post Nar Shaddaa. http://i.imgur.com/1ArhY.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 does no-one play advanced prototype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoka Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've found pyrotech to be an incredible leveling spec. The damage and survivability with Mako has been incredible. Its taken me 2 days, 4 hours, and 38 minutes to get to level 40. That was with enough pvp to get the full set of level 40 gear too, which slowed down the leveling. 100% soloing, no FPs or heroics post Nar Shaddaa. http://i.imgur.com/1ArhY.jpg only took me 2days 15 hours 30 minutes to get to 50 on a marauder... so that seems slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchizoX Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I leveled with pyro from 1-50. Wrecked thru mobs so fast with Mako healing me. With the speed you're killing mobs as pyro, there isn't really much downtime. I'd get healed to full by the time I picked up the loots(using area loot too). You'd probably need updated gear to dish out crazy dmg as pyro. I'm using almost full customized gear (excluding earpieces,implants, etc of course). I keep my mods updated as I took cybertech as my crew skill. Commendations used mostly for Mako Used a 2/8/31 spec for lvling+pvping: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#3010MZMsMZfhrbzGhrs.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Metaform Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've leveling into the whole Carolina Parakeet thing, 12-2-18 currently at 41, went 18 pyro as soon as I could. I play in Ion Cylinder with Mako and crush absolutely everything I run into. Heroic +2s, 100k hp+ Champions scattered about the planets; I feel like a raid boss almost when Republic try to gank me. I will admit having a full set of level 40 pvp gear from being rank 31 (11k hp at 41) is pretty fantastic for everything; I have been rolling since long before that though. Incendiary missle into railshot then rocket/flame burst with unloads whenever I can without going too far over 40 heat. Makes sense, plays smooth and everything but me dies. It's tempting to switch to Shield tech and roll with the lil guy but I hesitate to change what works so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimfae Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I've leveled as ST up through 39. I switched to pyro today to give it a try, and switched back after about 20 min. I died 3 times in 20 min. Sure I probably didn't have the rotation down as well, but still I was so much squishier as pyro. I don't think the dps makes up for the lack of mitigation over the long run. The easy stuff is easy in both specs, the hard stuff is much harder in pyro. 3 tough mobs and I'm using all my cd's and med packs. With ST I might use a med pack, probably none of my cd's. I tried a bunch of different mob combo's, up to the group of 3 tough mobs. Now, I still had all tank gear, all my mods are defensive, and I was using a shield. But I was running with CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcemaster Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Right now I am playing a pyro, just switched from shieldtech after going 10-47 shield, and I can not kill elites without my companion dieing and me using all my cooldowns and med pack. I won't use Mako because I want to get affection with all my other companions (have her's at max) and I geared them up to about where I am. Blizz dies on elites. Skadge dies on elites. Torian dies on elites. I am then left alive to handle everything to myself, and theres a 50% chance that I will die. How are you guys doing it with pyro? I am trying everything but nothing will work. I even switch to Mako for one elite and still died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFurz Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I just use Pyro with tank stance when mobs getting harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanzibal Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I have been a pyro PT for 34 levels now and its fine. I never tried any other types of PT though so it's possible that it's harder. However, I am quite sure I can't solo andy Heroics. I could probably, with alot of effort, down a solo heroic mob. In fact I'm sure I can. What I can't do is kill two or three at a time. I have nothing to CC two while I take the first one out. And my defense can't take 3 hitting me at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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