RossMacDonald Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hey guys, I have a operative at level 33, really enjoying it. However I was wondering once I hit 50 will I be any good in a team for PvE DPS. I dont want to go down the healing path. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveenus Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Depends on what spec you go / what playstyle you want.. Lethality will be more than adequate for PvE DPS I personally hate lethality and with the upcoming Acid Blade nerf to ArP (The other nerfs are TOTALLY needed IMO) I don't see concealment being that viable in PvE anymore. Currently Re-rolling an Assassin...they sort of have backstab right? : / Edited January 23, 2012 by eveenus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossMacDonald Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yer, I want to play as concealment. Might just roll gunslinger. Sad days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatzimaus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I personally hate lethality and with the upcoming Acid Blade nerf to ArP (The other nerfs are TOTALLY needed IMO) I don't see concealment being that viable in PvE anymore. AB's penetration buff was dropped from +50% to +30%, but that's still pretty strong for a 15-second buff, and the rather large DoT part of the effect was unchanged. As for Jarring Strike? Figuring that this was probably going to happen, I never took that talent in the first place, and spent those two points on Scouting instead for the +2% Defense. I wish they'd simply replaced the knockdown with some other effect, since the main complaints seemed to revolve around the helpless feeling people had as they lay on the ground for three seconds getting stabbed, but so far that hasn't happened. I'm not saying that I've had NO problems in PvE, but it's all gone fairly smoothly. When you get to the point where nearly every backstab is a critical hit AND delivers your Acid Blade attack, you'll do just fine for damage in PvE groups. Soloing's a bit painful if only because it becomes so hard to get the boss mobs to turn their backs to you; you're pretty much dependent on Debilitate there, and unless you're Biochem then you'll have a real problem staying healty while tanking the boss mobs. One thing I'd say: don't neglect the low-level talents in the other trees. +5/10% to Shiv damage is obviously useful for Conceals, as blade attacks are basically all they'll do. +3/6/9% Cunning is great for us, as is the +2/4% crit boost. And then there's Incisive Action, which makes Kolto Injection cast fast enough to be useful AND has it generate a TA. Being able to start a fight with a point of TA already generated for a Stim Boost can be huge in PvE's extended boss fights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deverin Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 AB's penetration buff was dropped from +50% to +30%, but that's still pretty strong for a 15-second buff, and the rather large DoT part of the effect was unchanged. As for Jarring Strike? Figuring that this was probably going to happen, I never took that talent in the first place, and spent those two points on Scouting instead for the +2% Defense. I wish they'd simply replaced the knockdown with some other effect, since the main complaints seemed to revolve around the helpless feeling people had as they lay on the ground for three seconds getting stabbed, but so far that hasn't happened. I'm not saying that I've had NO problems in PvE, but it's all gone fairly smoothly. When you get to the point where nearly every backstab is a critical hit AND delivers your Acid Blade attack, you'll do just fine for damage in PvE groups. Soloing's a bit painful if only because it becomes so hard to get the boss mobs to turn their backs to you; you're pretty much dependent on Debilitate there, and unless you're Biochem then you'll have a real problem staying healty while tanking the boss mobs. One thing I'd say: don't neglect the low-level talents in the other trees. +5/10% to Shiv damage is obviously useful for Conceals, as blade attacks are basically all they'll do. +3/6/9% Cunning is great for us, as is the +2/4% crit boost. And then there's Incisive Action, which makes Kolto Injection cast fast enough to be useful AND has it generate a TA. Being able to start a fight with a point of TA already generated for a Stim Boost can be huge in PvE's extended boss fights... Spatz what's your current spec? Crit and Surge? or Power? your main 2nd stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinworms Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I'm doing operations as a concealment op. I wear the 4 piece Rakata bonus (+5 energy), and the rest is mostly Battlemaster gear. My backstab with my gear and talents is suppoed to have a 70%+ chance to crit. To be honest, its very hard to judge how "useful" you are because there is no combat log, damage meters, and I'd say on most boss fights you are staring at the lower half of the boss so you can't even see your damage numbers. If I shift the camera up to look at numbers, then you will miss nasty things that happen on the ground. Can your guild make it work? Sure. But I have no idea if I'm being carried, or if I'm actually holding my own. There is a raid fight where everyone goes 1v1 against a mob. This would usually be a decent indicator of your dps, but the mob is immune to stuns and so you can't backstab it after the initial opener (so no Acid Blade either). So I'm usually the last to finish my mob (I do take on the highest hp ones too though), but if I could backstab I'd imagine I'd be right in the middle of the pack. Edited January 31, 2012 by Pinworms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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