GavinPatterson Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 i wasn't about to read the 11 pages to see what others thoughts, just the first two thanks. One issue I have, and its something that i can bring up in DAO and DA2. Your companions. IN DAO they felt like characters that were with you...almost like buddies. You could go talk to them at any moment, and even if there wasn't anything new, you'd hear their voice...you could talk to them. In DA2 this was reduced down to 'you can only talk to them when there is something new' And i found this to be countering something bioware did so well...make you feel like you are not alone. I was expecting SWTOR to have two things in addition to everything else. 1) Companions that felt like companions - as in DAO...not the DA2 style. 2) More of them and choice with the. I play jedi or sith....force users and was heartbroken to discover that blizz is not on my companion list. I know if we make them that angry the companion will leave, but I thought we had some kind of say as to who was coming with us and who wasn't. I still hate Tharon, and would love to remove him for another time of healer any day. Khem is ugly as all sin, and bores me to hell. So yea this was the biggest let down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFailSauce Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Personally, it's what I call not being a spoiled MMO noob brat who wants everything their way and wants it that way NOW and having an extremely high sense of entitlement. Just my $0.02. Don't mind me. Pythoris:Couldn't agree more. OP: don't complain about graphics. Instead, get a comp that doesn't suck. I run SWTOR at max graphics on an 18 month old comp and it looks *exactly* like the gameplay trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalvinDu Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Pythoris:Couldn't agree more. OP: don't complain about graphics. Instead, get a comp that doesn't suck. I run SWTOR at max graphics on an 18 month old comp and it looks *exactly* like the gameplay trailers. You must have some magic glasses, because the game doesn't look *exactly* like the gameplay trailers. And I run this game absolutely maxed out by the way, it's not a bad looking game in my opinion. Just not what I expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ippollite Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Or I could just snipe them. Yeah. That'd solve everything. What they need is a ridiculously difficult obstacle course/gauntlet through the empires capital. If you die, youre ported back to coruscant. But if you succeed you unlock some super secret genetic lab that ports every empire player IN GAME to your location (but now its a free for all and everyone can kill everyone else). In there, you have ONE SHOT at firing a ping pong ball into some large hadron collider type thing, but your mouse goes all ballistic (like it sometimes does when you try and look at your map). If you fail, you get ported back to coruscant and everyone gets sent back to what they were doing. But if you succeed this one in a billion shot, every empire character on the server has to make a d100 roll. If they pass the roll, they stay empire. If they fail the roll, they get ported to coruscant and are now their mirror class Voila! star wars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansultares Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I don't even want to describe to you what is wrong with the prequels, so I'll let this man do it: http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/Is that the phantom menace review I'm thinking of? Guy needs to start reviewing MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undeniablyjeff Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok.. so tell me lets say bioware put you in charge effective today. how would you "turn this boat around" so to speak since TOR was such an absolute total and utter failure to you. i heard bioware may even go out of business and take down EA with it at least that's what a buddy of mine said when he only say 86 people in the republic fleet. I'd task a helluva lot of people with smoothing out the performance issues so the game runs smoothly. If people could at least have a smooth gaming experience, TOR would be fine, fundamentally. The rest they've got in the bag. They do content well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjB-rain Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hmmmm could be cause the game is only a month old maybe???? I am enjoying it and from what they have said they would like to add and fix sounds like it could only get better. What would be the point to release a finished MMO??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdmen Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The release of The Phantom Menace. The amazing trailer(s) and years of hype.. and we get this. Enjoyable to play sometimes, but nothing as great as I expected. The key to remember when you're going to post here is that.. admit it, you were probably expecting more. Share your thoughts, do you agree with my view or not? Please don't lock this thread mods, it's a discussion/topic about the release hype of this game. The Phantom Menace's trailer sucked. Go watch it on Youtube, it's pretty lame actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeklor Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Get rid of fleet stations, we have these amazing cities and no one in them because everyone is in the fleet. All you have to do to get people grouping is make all city chats connect to each other. I would add to this put planetary GTNs back, like they were in the beta. You know, when the game had an economy. I agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necrolepsy Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The fans hyped themselves up, Bioware didn't hype it that much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phobia_ Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 ok.. so tell me lets say bioware put you in charge effective today. how would you "turn this boat around" so to speak since TOR was such an absolute total and utter failure to you. i heard bioware may even go out of business and take down EA with it at least that's what a buddy of mine said when he only say 86 people in the republic fleet. This game needs alot of work so i would sell it to blizzard and go sit on a beach enjoying my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vodalus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 i wasn't about to read the 11 pages to see what others thoughts, just the first two thanks. One issue I have, and its something that i can bring up in DAO and DA2. Your companions. IN DAO they felt like characters that were with you...almost like buddies. You could go talk to them at any moment, and even if there wasn't anything new, you'd hear their voice...you could talk to them. In DA2 this was reduced down to 'you can only talk to them when there is something new' And i found this to be countering something bioware did so well...make you feel like you are not alone. I was expecting SWTOR to have two things in addition to everything else. 1) Companions that felt like companions - as in DAO...not the DA2 style. 2) More of them and choice with the. I play jedi or sith....force users and was heartbroken to discover that blizz is not on my companion list. I know if we make them that angry the companion will leave, but I thought we had some kind of say as to who was coming with us and who wasn't. I still hate Tharon, and would love to remove him for another time of healer any day. Khem is ugly as all sin, and bores me to hell. So yea this was the biggest let down. Just wanted to jump in and clear this up for you. The section in red above is not true. It was, but they decided that they needed to protect the players from themselves and removed that feature. You can shock Vette with the shock-collar all you want and she'll never leave. As I've said before- BW's thought process seems to have boiled down to: Is it an end-user choice? Remove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathalsolo Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Pretty sure every single person in this thread who says they liked TPM was under the age of 15, either physically or mentally, when they saw it. I have yet to meet a single person who gave Ep 1 a rating above "meh" and those were the good reviews. Right, because when you hit 16 you are supposed to turn into a cynical ******e who cannot enjoy anything for what they are anymore, I suppose. And for the record, I was 18 when TPM came out. Didn't ruin my childhood, didn't make me swear off anything related to a movie series I liked since I was 4 all because of a CGI Gungan or 9 year old brat. While you think people who like the prequels are juvenile, I think people who complain about the prequels are the same way. Nothing like crying about a couple of movies all because you built up in your mind leading up to it that "It better be like X"...when you got "Y", Lucas turned into an evil idiot who ruined everything you ever knew. Way to make a movie series dictate your life. Sounds like someone...younger than 15... Edited January 24, 2012 by mathalsolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocNessMonster Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Anyone who's seen Return of the Jedi already knew what route Lucas was going with the franchise. If you thought Phantom Menace was going to be good well you don't pay attention to the world around you. The Prequel trilogy is just a 6 hour+ toy commercial. Edited January 24, 2012 by RocNessMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gokkus Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Haha what did you expect, that they would not try to hype this game!? So far I'm still enjoying it as much as my expectations led me to believe. So no episode 1 drama on my part. I did enjoy the fight with Darth Maul though. Except for the moment he backflips away from the jedi...it's so obvious he searches for the exact place where the flipboard (in reality) is that it seems highly unnatural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas_barth Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The release of The Phantom Menace. The amazing trailer(s) and years of hype.. and we get this. Enjoyable to play sometimes, but nothing as great as I expected. The key to remember when you're going to post here is that.. admit it, you were probably expecting more. Share your thoughts, do you agree with my view or not? Please don't lock this thread mods, it's a discussion/topic about the release hype of this game. Nope, cant admitt cause I dont agree. Had resonable expecations and the game is really really good:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertwolph Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 This game has had the best start of any MMO I have been with since the beginning. And I know it will just get better. WOW for example was unplayable the first week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMonster Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 . I mean come on, admit it. You were expecting more. wrong. it was much more than I expected ! much much more. I'm still blown away with what they produced. a very nice evolution of contemporary gaming, and evolution is a good thing. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondking Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 admit it, you were probably expecting more. Share your thoughts, do you agree with my view or not? Please don't lock this thread mods, it's a discussion/topic about the release hype of this game. No, it was quite what I expected and I'm enjoying it. Maybe some peoples problems are their own unrealistic expectations? If you went into this thinking this would be the game that changes mmo genre leaving everyone else in it's dust, then, lol to you. I expected a solid story driven mmo, which is what I got. And if they continue to hunt bugs (fix social points, please) and polishing this, I don't see why I wouln't hang around for several years to come. I'm satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMonster Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 The fans hyped themselves up, Bioware didn't hype it that much at all. THIS ^ lol look at Star Trek Online for another example of fan-induced speculative hype..... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melkathi Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was expecting less actually. That does not mean that the game is the best game ever, it just means that I had such a low expectation that... Phantom Menace I had been expecting much more. Since Phantom Menace I expect anything with the Star Wars label to be not enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozlock Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I like the prequels, and I like TOR. I was expecting to pvp, rp with friends, and have fun. Which is what I'm doing, so TOR lived up to my expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napalmbrain Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'll be honest. For 6 years and 200 million dollars....I was expecting MUCH more. I am so disappointed in all of the wasted time, money, potential, dumb decisions etc etc that it has really shaken my hopes for the future of Video Games. Bioware is one of the best gaming companies, this wasn't supposed to happen like this. This game was supposed to be epic beyond imagination, like their recent games, Mass Effect and Dragon Age....this is anything but and after those 2 games, this is a HUGE letdown. If Bioware can't do better than this for 200 mil and 6 years, well it is not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barathos Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 This game has had the best start of any MMO I have been with since the beginning. And I know it will just get better. WOW for example was unplayable the first week or so. I like how you didn't mention Rift. Smooth launch, and they fixed their bugs QUICKLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtMonster Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I am so disappointed in all of the wasted time, money, potential, dumb decisions etc etc that it has really shaken my hopes for the future of Video Games...... please enlighten us..... what and how much "wasted" time as compared to 'efficient' time useage. same with money... how much was "wasted" in comparison to not. how about "potential" ??? how are you getting your facts about the efficiant useage of potential in the Bioware offices ? and how about giving us example of dumb descisions? and the comparison to the total amount of "Descisions" that were made in the development. so ya..... please "Foil us with Facts" ..... becasue otherwise...youre jsut "baffling with bullpoo." . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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