SensusSW Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hello, I recently started an op and need some help. Can someone link me to a good operative guide to help me with leveling/pvp? Thanks a lot in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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renegadeimp Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Grab the points from the trees that give you crit and cunning, then spec up the concealment tree. Once you get to around 30/40, respec into concealment fully to get the "god mode" skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensusSW Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Grab the points from the trees that give you crit and cunning, then spec up the concealment tree. Once you get to around 30/40, respec into concealment fully to get the "god mode" skills. Do you have a link to any detailed guide I can take a look at? Or do you just know this out of pure knowledge from playing the class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgiI Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Best guides I've found by far: DPS: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-DPS-Compendium Healing: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-Healing-Compendium Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensusSW Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Best guides I've found by far: DPS: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-DPS-Compendium Healing: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-Healing-Compendium Enjoy What about a pvp build/rotation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgiI Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) pvp is self explanatory. Here is the cookie cutter build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZGhModkrffzZhr.1 rotation is [fixed]: stealth>acid blade>hidden strike>shiv>acid blade>backstab>lacerate, rinse and repeat. You also want to apply poison dart sometime if you can to increase your dmg output. Debilitate and flashbang when appropriate. Don't forget about Sever tendon, which roots for 2 seconds and slows for 12 with this spec and can be used on players with full resolve. If you get caught out of stealth you WILL DIE in roughly 5 seconds unless vanish is up and they haven't dotted you. Evasion is great for close fights with melees or if you want to purge dots before vanishing. I think I've covered pretty much everything. Edited January 24, 2012 by VirgiI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 What about a pvp build/rotation? There really isnt a set rotation for pvp. Basically you stack dots or you enhance your blade and go at them while making sure you are energy efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renegadeimp Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Do you have a link to any detailed guide I can take a look at? Or do you just know this out of pure knowledge from playing the class? Its basic sense for almost any class. There is nothing really important pre lacerate. SO you just get the crit and cunning skills ( which makes a BIG difference at low levels), then when you hit the right level, spec out of them and into your class defining skills. If you spec solely up the concealment tree from scratch, you can level with zero problems, but having 9% more cunning and the extra crit helps a hell of a lot at low levels with levelling speed. Plus specced right, you can solo pretty much all heroic missions regardless of +2 or +4 up to the late 30's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensusSW Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thank you so much guys, you've all been so helpful. I really do appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SensusSW Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Just one more thing, as an op do you still use your cover abilities such as snipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bastal Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) Just one more thing, as an op do you still use your cover abilities such as snipe? To drop an explosive probe and a snipe I would assume. I am a Lethality sniper and do it all the time (only difference is I use series of shots instead of snipe), so I guess Op's do it too for a nice chunk of extra damage. Edited January 24, 2012 by Bastal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurosisxeno Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 pvp is self explanatory. Here is the cookie cutter build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#4010cZGhModkrffzZhr.1 rotation is: stealth>acid blade>hidden strike>backstab> (if vanish is up, vanish and repeat steps 1-4) > shiv > lacerate > (if collateral procs, lacerate again else overload shot/rifle shot until shiv is off cd) > backstab, etc. You also want to apply poison dart before your lacerate so that collateral strike will regen your TA, but when you apply it is up to you. I disagree. I would say; Stealth -> Acid Blade -> Hidden Strike -> Shiv -> Acid Blade - Backstab -> Lacerate. You also don't need to Poison Dart them as long as you keep Acid Blade up on the target, since that counts as a poison effect. The extra dps doesn't hurt though if the fight drags out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VirgiI Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I disagree. I would say; Stealth -> Acid Blade -> Hidden Strike -> Shiv -> Acid Blade - Backstab -> Lacerate. You also don't need to Poison Dart them as long as you keep Acid Blade up on the target, since that counts as a poison effect. The extra dps doesn't hurt though if the fight drags out. I must have been drunk when I wrote my rotation. Yes, this is the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodq Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Im shocked that still some ppl do HS then directly BS, instead of HS+AB -> Shiv -> BS+AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obbu Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Im shocked that still some ppl do HS then directly BS, instead of HS+AB -> Shiv -> BS+AB The BS first is to ensure positional availability due to jarring strike. If you are hitting two acid blades within that short a period, you are clipping a significant portion of the dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uruz Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Best guides I've found by far: DPS: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-DPS-Compendium Healing: http://sithwarrior.com/forums/Thread-Scoundrel-Operative-Healing-Compendium Enjoy Thank you! Healing "theory crafting" information was very useful. Definitely notice a huge improvement in my heals when dropping Alacrity for Surge/Crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakyra Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 thanks for the links on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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