Stellarex Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Remove expertise get rid of the pvp gear grind. Let players have customization with orange gear. Gear progression in general is a dumb idea and just creates gaps between the amount of time you are able to play. Pve and pvp can be functional together and have immersiveness but not with gear progression grinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fungihoujo Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 lol at the people trolling saying level 50s are complaining because they cant pvp against level 10s, theyre complaining because the wait times are rediculous. Add cross server PVP. Except... people complaining are missing two things- first, most people aren't 50 yet... hence why the lower queues are nonstop. Second- level 50s aren't queueing because they can't get the easy mode valour in WZ anymore... cuz they have to actually put effort to beating similarly geared players. Also- OP queues in the morning on a Sunday, seriously, even the no-lifes are sleeping in at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenWhitworth Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I'm on baccas blade, we are lucky to see 1 or 2 Warzones a day. I sometimes sit in Q for about 2 or 3 hours during prime time and nothing........ And when we do get a Warzone it ALWAYS ends after 120 seconds due to lack of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlucas Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Except... people complaining are missing two things- first, most people aren't 50 yet... hence why the lower queues are nonstop. Second- level 50s aren't queueing because they can't get the easy mode valour in WZ anymore... cuz they have to actually put effort to beating similarly geared players. Also- OP queues in the morning on a Sunday, seriously, even the no-lifes are sleeping in at that point. It's not that they're not queuing, it's simply that some servers just don't have enough. I can /who 50 at primetimes and am lucky to see 30 people on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unregenerate Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Anchorhead queues < 5 minutes all day, all night, all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarthorn Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hello there Di'nariss lvl 50 Guardian from jedi cov here! the reason the WZs shut down is simple, most of us got fed up of running into your double premade battlemaster group and simply play alts now. Ilum got boring, Wzs are frustrating because of your double premades so why bother? Maybe if you guys stopped using every dirty trick in the book we would be more up for a fight? Peace out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandlero Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 On Mind Trick from ~3AM until 8 AM you won't get a match at all. Spent 5 hours Friday night/Saturday morning, this week, waiting for a match. 50s brackets has (as of now) eliminated PvP for non-peak players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radiozo Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Some in this thread seems to think its ok that only lvl 50 players on heavy servers should be able to play warzones. I got 50+ days left. Thats the time BW has to fix this mess. I hope there will still be any lvl 50 players left by then. Cross-server warzones is the solution. Now go fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magcyl Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If bioware was smart (lol), they would have made warzones 10-39, and 40-50. Then put some expertise on the level 40 PvP gear. On a heavy populated server, I went from instant to 2 min warzone queue times all the way up to 15-30 minute queue times... Only to get paired up with derp allies against a premade. Ilum is also impossible with 2-5 empire PER capture point, and only 15 in ilum for republic, mostly doing pve. As someone who spent most of their time doing PvP, this patch killed it for me. I am on day 3 just trying to get the ilum daily done. The only reason I am even still trying is because I only need 5 more kills. I also can no longer get the warzone dailies done once a day. And I hate to mention class balance, but now that it is all level 50s, I really notice how much my sentinel gets focused. I pop my defensive cooldowns and still die in under 10 seconds. I also feel like i am swinging around 2 wet noodles and not lightsabers. But I am good at locking down healers... If I can survive long enough. Totally in the same situation as you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magcyl Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The problem was never the 50's it was the expertise stat in pvp gear that is available to only level 50's that gave the advantage in warzones. I am not a fan of pve or pvp restrictive stats and think that everything should just be custom gear that you create based on your own playstyle, but i dont work for EA games. Exactly. Now it's new lvl50's having no chance against high valor/expertise geared lvl50's. The majority of players aren't at lvl50 yet, so it's not their problem, and therefore lvl50's are just whiners. But it is their problem. They're going to reach that stage eventually, and then they'll know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magcyl Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Thanks to the poor implementation of Ilum in 1.1, 50's wz's have become a playground for battlemaster geared premades. Most new 50's join, gets creamed, and leave discouraged never to come back. It's hard to blame them. exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magcyl Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 ^^ This. I had fun queueing warzones from lvl10 all the way up to 49...though the past few weeks before the 50s bracket was kinda touchy there. But from waht I see as a fresh 50 in the new bracket, it is not fun at all. Its been pretty much all premades with geared 50s, and I die faster now than I did as a lvl10. I stopped queueing and jsut play another alt instead. Same, you're not alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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