Lord girada promotes trash talk as well as cheating.

Amazing the space idea is definitely something that would be so Star Wars.

YES! This is what we want.

The reason why this vanished was not only due to battleground instances but also their high warlord system which required pvp gear grind in order to compete.

That's the point. The system needs to be scrapped. Give me keep and relic capture with darkness falls.

Um did you read what I wrote? I am advocating removing gear progression based on stats entirely in both pvp and pve. Pve rewards should be equivalent to crafted gear just flashier. People don't care about stats they want what looks cool and the challenge of the encounter. In regards to crafting the best schematics should be available from trainer not from pve raiding.

I want to know what happened to the devs of daoc. Daoc was my first mmo. They basically perfected rvr in that game and no one has been able to duplicate it. On almost every mmo forum I see people clamoring for the daoc style to no avail.

+1 People just don't see the massive resemblance its disgusting.

Sounds like some players are just bad. I mean my lvl 13 was out dmging lvl 40s today. I'd say the imbalance you are experiencing is skill.

I believe the reason you are seeing so many people complaining about lvl 50 Qs is they have rerolled an alt to play in the balanced 10-49 bracket that has no expertise. People in general enjoy c ompetition and its definitely a trend on my server Assassins of Sion. There is no need for expertise and people are beginning to shun gear grind.

Daoc specifically failed due to the addition of gear grind so I disagree with you on the business model.

You are wrong not all mmos have gear progression. You can balance pve and pvp without gear progression by making the best gear craftable and giving the players the ability customize their gear. BW does this from 1-49 with customizable orange gear and then completely drops that and makes you grind for the best gear. If you want to keep expertise provide craftable items with expertise. WoW pvp was fail this almost just as bad.

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:mad:Everyone is trying to fit into the gear grind mode of getting gear. Its outdated. Just have the best gear be craftable using cybertech and letting players choose the pieces and look they want. This addresses soo many issues including crafting demand, customizing, and balance based on peoples play time. Remove expertise pointless stat. WoW pvp gear grind with Swtor skin is what we have ATM with broken random bag drops.

Remove expertise get rid of the pvp gear grind. Let players have customization with orange gear. Gear progression in general is a dumb idea and just creates gaps between the amount of time you are able to play. Pve and pvp can be functional together and have immersiveness but not with gear progression grinds.

I love how this thread and so many others get off topic.

I always relate open world pvp to rvr and when I think of rvr I remember the frontiers of daoc and capturing keeps and relics which gave bonuses to the entire faction in both rvr and pve. Also controlling a majority of the keeps opened a unique pve area called darkness falls. The integration between rvr and pve was immense. This kind of system needs to be done. Just look at the cinematics and you have the empire attacking coruscant and reclaiming korriban. On a separate note get rid of the pvp gear grind with expertise and let the players decide their customization with both looks and stats via the orange gear. This is a Fantastic idea that the devs throw away at 50. This also puts to rest long queue times in the 50s bracket as they can group everyone together again. I don't want WoW pvp.

I always relate open world pvp to rvr and when I think of rvr I remember the frontiers of daoc and capturing keeps and relics which gave bonuses to the entire faction in both rvr and pve. Also controlling a majority of the keeps opened a unique pve area called darkness falls. The integration between rvr and pve was immense. This kind of system needs to be done. Just look at the cinematics and you have the empire attacking coruscant and reclaiming korriban. On a separate note get rid of the pvp gear grind with expertise and let the players decide their customization with both looks and stats via the orange gear. This is a Fantastic idea that the devs throw away at 50. This also puts to rest long queue times in the 50s bracket as they can group everyone together again. I don't want WoW pvp.