Jimer_Lins Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Didn't realize that a majority of the people on the forums were also qualified enough to denounce what professional analysts say. Then again, maybe they don't have to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseCodex Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 ._." read the article in the link but due to my dumb brain idk what's going on... DX I hate being dumb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkiii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 So I see someone toss out a random link about an analyst and his opinion. Then I go to his post link and see: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2012/01/20/ea-bounces-back-as-analysts-defend-%E2%80%98star-wars%E2%80%99/ “We believe that these concerns are overblown, and that the company’s revenues are tracking ahead of the high end of guidance for the fiscal year.” Please, if you do not understand how the market works, stop posting Doomsday links as if it some kind of validation of your personal views of this video game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireofsev Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/19/electronic-arts-stock-in-danger-thanks-to-swtor-fumbles/ Enjoy the read. lololol SPECULATION lolololol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pherdnut Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) SWTOR will be the biggest MMO in MMO history. They haven't even run a TV ad campaign for it yet. Edited January 27, 2012 by Pherdnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkiii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 SWTOR will be the biggest MMO in MMO history. They haven't even run a TV ad campaign for it yet. Yes they have. As seen on Spike TV around launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrys Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just profit taking pre feb 1 earnings report. Sell portion of your stock to realize 2011 gains and or offset 2011 losses it is still up 20% over the previous 12 mos. Although best buy's december numbers would certainly indicate that report will look pretty good year over year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunazen Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Remember back in the day when the words stock and market and shares never came near an MMO's community nor seemed overly much to affect the game? That all went on behind the scenes, but to the community, and the creativity running the show, it wasn't overtly about money. F2P, which ends up making them more money in spite of the appeal to the customer with the word free, and quickly ends up degrading the quality of the game and the community in general, I think is a direct result of this line between the game end of things and the business end of things vanishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyViking Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 From a trending perspective, EA seems far from doomed. They followed the NASDAQ and other indices for the longest time and then dropped off in the last few months (end of October, 2011), but so did Blizzard and Hasbro. Now all three are on a gradual downward slope that looks like it's leveling off, and all three are up at today's close from where they opened. They'll be alright. As much as I dislike EA as an umbrella corp, I see very little wrong with SWTOR for this early in the release cycle. -mV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alkiii Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 From a trending perspective, EA seems far from doomed. They followed the NASDAQ and other indices for the longest time and then dropped off in the last few months (end of October, 2011), but so did Blizzard and Hasbro. Now all three are on a gradual downward slope that looks like it's leveling off, and all three are up at today's close from where they opened. They'll be alright. As much as I dislike EA as an umbrella corp, I see very little wrong with SWTOR for this early in the release cycle. -mV Thank you. This is a correct assessment of what is going on. Too many like to just call out doom and gloom and put no leg work into any of it. Then use it to solidify their opinion as if it were factual evidence of their personal beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uruare Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Oy, it's Elliot vs Efficient vs Monkeys all over again. On one hand, trying to predict markets based on the numbers alone is the province of dartboards and lottery tickets with a better accounting format. On the other, socioeconomic scholars, bending their pursuits to applied fields such as corporate marketing, bring some interesting and sometimes alarmingly relevant insights that raw numbers alone don't and can't yield. Presuming you haven't lived under a rock at the bottom of the ocean for the past 20 or so years, assuming you're familiar with the late Steve Jobs and, at least in general, the success of Apple products under primarily his direction, you're probably also aware that Apple's become more than just a product brand that some people like well enough. Jobs, as no one will dispute unless they like to be wrong, understood people. What they want; how they want it; what turned them on to something, got them excited, compelled their loyalty to an emotional icon. I'd only half agree that analysts are barely better than playing a dartboard lottery. Working in tandem with those that understand -people-, well...there goes the dartboard's relevance. But then, any data is functionally worthless unless its in the hands of those that know how to use it in the contexts of not merely its own relevance, but in the context of its intended application. In my experience, market analysts aren't any better at understanding -people- than the next guy or gal, or worse. All their numbers and carefully cultivated diagrams and tracking data may as well be incoherent strings of letters, numbers and symbols for all they'll be good for in the hands of someone that doesn't understand people. Awful lot of people thought Steve Jobs was quite the arrogant S.O.B. Is it arrogance if you're right and people really do tend to come in roughly six flavors of what they want and think they need? Get mad at the cherished belief of people being 'unpredictable' being hilariously wrong if you think it'll help but, there you have it none-the-less; the Apple Culture. Brought to you by a man that understood people working in tandem with people that understood the numbers. A wizard didn't do it. So, don't just look at the numbers, says me. Let's take a look also at how well Bioware/EA understand people. Edited January 27, 2012 by Uruare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyDale Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 SWTOR will be the biggest MMO in MMO history. They haven't even run a TV ad campaign for it yet. I've seen a few comercials for SWTOR on TV, so this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrys Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Thank you. This is a correct assessment of what is going on. Too many like to just call out doom and gloom and put no leg work into any of it. Then use it to solidify their opinion as if it were factual evidence of their personal beliefs. As far as I can tell from a bit of quick research it looks like they are going to be the first pure game stock to release data on the x-mas quarter and that was announced the day before it slid. On wednesday we're going to get a very good read of the market. Holiday quarter results february 1. The stock also fell heading into it's february release last year then grew big out. Profittaking ready to jump back in wednesday morning or be glad they took their profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimer_Lins Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Anyone else listening to the Q3 earnings conference call? I'm liking what I hear so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldisper Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Garbage analysts make market predictions based on a few weeks of almost entirely aimless complaints. EA shares are on the rise again. The shares have rizen 5.37 percent with an almost 100 percent retention rate, There is a great deal of information on how to interpet share value and recomendations, Its funny but the law of inertia drives the market, example if you see a stock moving up it is most likely it will keep moving up till it hits a plateau, Time to invest in bioware imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentaos Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wow, I would love to "fail" with 2 million units sold so far and 1.7 million subscribers!!!!! I can feel their anger now...ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldisper Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) The incorrect information given by writer of article is in direct confrontation with the facts , joistiq analyst? thread http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/19/electronic-arts-stock-in-danger-thanks-to-swtor-fumbles/ this guy needs to learn how stocks work before commenting here is a another article from another source http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120201-721135.html and yet another report http://finance.yahoo.com/news/EA-sells-2-million-units-Star-rb-2435005071.html?x=0 Edited February 2, 2012 by eldisper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhentarion Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 If EA fail it aint cos of Swtor EA has always been Bad as a Mofo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vennge Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 I found reading the comments in that article a lot more entertaining than the article itself. Agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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