Rasilaan Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've enjoyed SWTOR for over a month now. But the class quests since Hoth have just gotten ridiculous. I've tried all the specs, changed armor, gotten new armor, mods and used all of my various companions. Still i needed the help of another player to get past elites in certain areas. Its getting on my last nerve. WHAT AM I NOT DOING??? Any tips or strategies would be helpful, even the ones where you tell me I don't know what i'm doing. If you're going to tell me that, please tell me what i should be doing. Otherwise I'm going back to my Smuggler and say screw the Empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sayc Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) inb4 l2p lvl 40 pvp set(yourself and companion), quinn, obfuscate, medpacs, stims, adrenals, relics, force choke, bloodthirst, annihilation spec, intimidating roar, force camo, undying rage, cloak of pain, kiba's sticky. use all of it. Edited January 17, 2012 by Sayc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasilaan Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 right thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawlsRorty Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 One useful trick to play with elites is the aggro yoyo game. Send Jaessa or Vette in first using ctrl-1. Then dive in. A few seconds later, you should pull aggro (if you don't then you should re-evaluate your dps rotations). Then pop saber ward or cloak of pain and tank the elite till you are at 50% health. At that point , pop Force Camo so the elite goes back to your companion. By the time you pull aggro again or your companion dies, the elite should be dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasilaan Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 inb4 l2p lvl 40 pvp set(yourself and companion), quinn, obfuscate, medpacs, stims, adrenals, relics, force choke, bloodthirst, annihilation spec, intimidating roar, force camo, undying rage, cloak of pain, kiba's sticky. use all of it. you're exactly right, annil i best...its what i used for almost the entire time I've been playing then changed based on something i read, then changed again, now back to it and in mins i can see a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treerootz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 you're exactly right, annil i best...its what i used for almost the entire time I've been playing then changed based on something i read, then changed again, now back to it and in mins i can see a difference Use quinn and keep him upgraded, im lvl 48 in voss and soloing elites like nothing.. Even soloed a champion in a 7 minute agro bounce between me and quinn, quinn heals like a beast when upgraded, and your dmg in anni should be more then enough to make up for no dmg pet! Make sure to use cloak and your tank Cds when needed and u should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirnirr Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 with 40 pvp gear and quinn i literally flew by 40 to 50 in 2 and a half days voss is the part that slows u down from all the running and that other place i forget whats its call buts its 41 to 44 and 44 to 47 dumbest planets to be on too much running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treerootz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 you're exactly right, annil i best...its what i used for almost the entire time I've been playing then changed based on something i read, then changed again, now back to it and in mins i can see a difference Use quinn and keep him upgraded, im lvl 48 in voss and soloing elites like nothing.. Even soloed a champion in a 7 minute agro bounce between me and quinn, quinn heals like a beast when upgraded, and your dmg in anni should be more then enough to make up for no dmg pet! Make sure to use cloak and your tank Cds when needed and u should be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyMcBlunts Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Use Lt. Peirce. Just gear him up and hes good for tank and dmg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolutionownz Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 it's a pain.. but i found it easier to use quinn and have him geared with quest rewards and go annihilation spec and get pvp weapons every level you can.. hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonumbers Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Hoth is the only place I really had an issue, I have switched to using Quinn tho since he does keep you alive and you do far more damage then any of your companions are capable of. Just remember that you have Saber Ward, Cloak of Pain and Obfuscate (good for when fights get down to just 1 strong/elite mobs) and if you're using Quinn then undying rage is also good as the HP you'll lose for using it quinn will probably heal before it runs off while leaving you nearly invulnerable for the duration. Lastly when things do go bad, Force Camo, your companion is more expandable then you are so let them tank while you try and finish the fight off. Works about 95% of the time, the other 5% you'll probably end out eating dirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voblat Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've soloed all the way to 50 , so claiming marauders cant solo is fallacy. I'm no great player, the opposite, I dont have a single keybind, I click the skills which is apparently 'noob' and dont profess to have any gaming skill at all,, I dont PvP, made my own hilts, got armour from the commendations (for me and vette), dont min/max, was a level or two below the missions right to the end, and had no issues with any of it. Only used vette, only used annihilation spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idge Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 One useful trick to play with elites is the aggro yoyo game. Send Jaessa or Vette in first using ctrl-1. Then dive in. A few seconds later, you should pull aggro (if you don't then you should re-evaluate your dps rotations). Then pop saber ward or cloak of pain and tank the elite till you are at 50% health. At that point , pop Force Camo so the elite goes back to your companion. By the time you pull aggro again or your companion dies, the elite should be dead. I tend to do this alot when there's multiple elites aswell, never had any problems soloing. I'm using Jaessa, Great minds think alike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampagingike Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I was annihilation from 1 = 50. Was a breeze. Could solo elites without cooldowns especially once I got Short Fuse, which allows you to practically spam Berserk. 2x strong packs were the hardest but still doable. Droid packs were a breeze. Just have to maintain your DoTs on more then 1 target. 2 target ticking with saber and at least 1 rupture is doable with beserserk spam/quinn means your a mob grinding machine. Just go Charge>Saber>BA>Rupture>Annihilate>Ravage then maintain dots and keep anni stacks rolling. Dont really need vicious slash unless Annilate is on coodlown and you have excess rage to dump outside of ravage cooldown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DufterKlopps Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) heres what i did @40 companion quinn put quinn on med watch stance for better healing. check if every skill is activated! give him at least the misiion reward items for upgrading. cunning increases healing amount. use ur defensive skills at least for strong and above enemies. saber ward, cloak of pain, obfuscate, force choke, undying rage, force camo, medpacks whatever spec u use, try to find a mindfull rotation to max ur damage output. im carnage spec since lvl 1 so i can give advice for that. simple rule > try to fit as many high damage abilities like force scream and ravage while blood frenzy and gore are up. blood frenzy = 100% crit chance force scream, gore = 100% armor penetration for 6 seconds every 15 seconds. blood frenzy is autotriggered by massacre, so its up pretty much always. massacre is the last skill in carnage tree. good damage, 2 rage cost with dabbling in anninspec if i recall correctly and no cd. looks awesome btw. with massacre i started to rip elites apart. berserk reduces the GLOBAL cd for massacre by .5 sec, amazing! on same lvl i kill an elite an have 60 to 80 % hp left, depending on his interrupts knockback skills with only using cloak of pain. elites with no interrupts and kb dont uotdamage quinns heals, i have no downtime at all. for indepth infos about the skill trees i recommend kibas mach 5 guide. great stuff. edit, and for god sake use use ur 8 sec cd interrupt Edited January 17, 2012 by DufterKlopps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesmode Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Honestly, all that has been said in this thread about using quinn, keeping him geared, and going annihilation spec is good stuff. A few things Id add If you are leveling as annihilation, which I recommend you do(but it is your dime), here is what I do for each situation and I seem to have no trouble: Group of 3-5 regular mobs: 1. Force Charge + Deadly Saber(while in air) 2. Savage kick one target 3. Switch target and Battering Assault 4. Switch target and Rupture 5. Switch target and Ravage 6. Smash 7. Sweeping Strike spam till dead. If you are able, pop beserk after step 3,4,5 are applied. Your bleeds critting+your bleeds healing+your aoe+using quinn = all mobs dead in about 15 seconds, and you have 80%+ life. Group of 1 Strong and 1 or 2 regular: 1. Force Charge 2. Savage kick the NON-STRONG. 3. Kill him with regular strikes. 4. Switch to strong, pop Deadly Saber and Battering Assault 5. Rupture 6. Ravage 7. Rinse/Repeat until dead keeping bleeds up and beserk active as much as possible. Elites: 1. Force Charge 2. Switch to strong, pop Deadly Saber and Battering Assault 3. Rupture 4. Ravage 5. Rinse/Repeat until dead keeping bleeds up and beserk active as much as possible. 7. Viscious Slash or whatever it is as a rage dump. **Pop defensive cooldowns as needed. You might say "we are so weak if we need to pop them frequently." I say, its part of the class and play style. We have ALOT of abilities that we use ALL the time. It makes the class less boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBoga Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 i am carnage lvl 43 now, never had a problem with soloing silvers, gold mobs take 1 of either cloak of pain, saber ward or obfuscate. please l2p. \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundergulch Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I've enjoyed SWTOR for over a month now. But the class quests since Hoth have just gotten ridiculous. I've tried all the specs, changed armor, gotten new armor, mods and used all of my various companions. Still i needed the help of another player to get past elites in certain areas. Its getting on my last nerve. WHAT AM I NOT DOING??? Any tips or strategies would be helpful, even the ones where you tell me I don't know what i'm doing. If you're going to tell me that, please tell me what i should be doing. Otherwise I'm going back to my Smuggler and say screw the Empire. Like others have said, use Quinn and keep his (and yours) gear up to date. That said, with Quinn go with anything that gives him more Cunning yourself Str-Crit-Surge with a balance of Power tossed in too. Annihilation spec. Edit: You can use any companion as long as their gear is up to date, but your playstyle WILL vary depending on which one you decide to use. Edited January 17, 2012 by Thundergulch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaxxus Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Get yourself a Razer naga mmo mouse. An integral part of playing marauder is insane button mashing. You must know where all your cool downs are and when you should use them. You must be using every possible damaging ability when it's up. Playing a marauder is a dps race vs other mobs. You should actually have an easier time with elites because your self heals have time to kick in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadakUra Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I leveled the entire way using vette for everything. Annihilation spec. I also went biochem which certainly helped. I've died maybe half a dozen times total, and never more than once to the same boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGSThomas Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I've soloed all the way to 50 , so claiming marauders cant solo is fallacy. I'm no great player, the opposite, I dont have a single keybind, I click the skills which is apparently 'noob' and dont profess to have any gaming skill at all,, I dont PvP, made my own hilts, got armour from the commendations (for me and vette), dont min/max, was a level or two below the missions right to the end, and had no issues with any of it. Only used vette, only used annihilation spec. This. OP You are doing something wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasilaan Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 i appreciate all the tips/help folks glad to see star wars fans are classy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norumaniac Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Force choke is another great ability. Basically you incapacitate the mob while doing dmg, preventing him to attack you and giving Quinn some time to heal your ***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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