Felioats Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) It was sort of tucked at the end of one of Georg's posts, and while I noticed it, I haven't seen any threads on the matter. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1435443#edit1435443 Finally, I'd like to acknowledge, again, that we do understand that there is a desire for players to get more detailed information what happens to their character in combat. We agree with those requests and are working on various ways to, optionally, get more detailed data on your combat performance. Thanks for your feedback! -- Georg That's how I interpret the quote, anyway. (EDIT: Emphasis not mine. In the original quote, the word "your" is italicized) And it's all right by me. The people who want logs say they need meters to let them gauge their own performance as a point of personal pride. Few have been willing to admit they want them for any other reason. This should satisfy pretty much everyone -- both the people who want logs to help them better themselves, and the people who don't want the culture of elitism and exclusion that meters foster. Edited January 12, 2012 by Felioats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradewindNQ Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 It's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonAgeOrgins Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good no recount for group. And you know personal DPS. Now everyone wins. No loud mouth in raid shouting everyone's number's and if you ask me mine. I'll lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jett-Rinn Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Agreed it's optional and lets you see your numbers.....I think that is a fair compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good no recount for group. And you know personal DPS. Now everyone wins. No loud mouth in raid shouting everyone's number's and if you ask me mine. I'll lie. OR you will have guild leaders requiring logs to be submitted at the end of each raid so they can be reviewed by leader and officers. Where there is a will, there is a way (at least in guilds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eloco Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good no recount for group. And you know personal DPS. Now everyone wins. No loud mouth in raid shouting everyone's number's and if you ask me mine. I'll lie. Why would you need to lie, unless you were slacking, being a leech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chosenxeno Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Only monitoring my performance is not good enough. I know I'm good. It's everyone else I'm concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felioats Posted January 12, 2012 Author Share Posted January 12, 2012 OR you will have guild leaders requiring logs to be submitted at the end of each raid so they can be reviewed by leader and officers. Where there is a will, there is a way (at least in guilds). Easily falsified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanni Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think you are reading to much into that one word. I think he just used it as it was a more convenient way to say it rather than "get more detailed data on the combat performance of characters in game." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosedog Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good start, only a matter of time now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahana Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Good no recount for group. And you know personal DPS. Now everyone wins. No loud mouth in raid shouting everyone's number's and if you ask me mine. I'll lie. You want to join my heroic pug.. I'll force you to upload a combat log from within the last week to a website validating your claims of being able to defeat content. I need a reason to start programming web pages again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reecelol Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 (edited) maybe a few patches down the road theyll have a fully operational combat log. no open combat log sounds like a good way for terrible players to hide how terrible they are. Edited January 12, 2012 by Reecelol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Easily falsified. Hey. if people want to go out of their way to lie about poor performance...oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVolpex Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 great idea, but i can live w/o it i honestly despise meter whoring, all it creates is tunnel vision wreckballs i dare not even utter the words GS here either , i hate both with a passion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xioix Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 can't wait for lfg tool next!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradewindNQ Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 maybe a few patches down the road theyll have a fully operational combat log. oh you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundercast Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Only monitoring my performance is not good enough. I know I'm good. It's everyone else I'm concerned about. Win ! Yet so true. However I really don't think it will be only a personal combat log. After all, a combat log includes deaths, fails, etc. which would be quite useless if you could only see your data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkCarnage Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 maybe they going to do a personal dps meter in game, so you got you info only and can not post it to others via files ? just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDiciple Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Bah not concerned about guild runs anyway (why hide from guildies - they're there to help each other get better, or should be anyway). But random yelling kids. Anyways, being able to maximize my own performance without jerks mixed in - pretty much win win. Hope it stays that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaVolpex Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 You want to join my heroic pug.. I'll force you to upload a combat log from within the last week to a website validating your claims of being able to defeat content. I need a reason to start programming web pages again. ok ill just make you wait 20 mins while i photoshop it, or simply refuse to group with you and move on looking for another group, either way its a win to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golroc Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 A shame. A real combat log would allow me to quickly identify bad dps'ers so I don't have to group with them. It's fair enough that some people are either bad or not interested in doing good dps - but I very much would like the choice not to group with them. As it is now - I just avoid grouping with anyone but my wife. I had enough of playing with bads in wow - I simply won't stomach it in another MMO. And no I don't want to raid - so don't tell me to join a heroic raiding guild if I want to avoid bads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PjPablo Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 ok ill just make you wait 20 mins while i photoshop it, or simply refuse to group with you and move on looking for another group, either way its a win to me Which is what you could have done anyway with open meters in game. This whole 'I don't want people to see my data because they might call me out" stuff is pretty sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipiety Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 If they keep going this anti compete policy to coddle the bads they will lose all the serious gamers and end up with a community as horrible as RIFTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditboo Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Seems early to argue about it, the wording could easily be interpreted either way. Anywhooo...glad to hear it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saishyuro Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I think you are reading to much into that one word. I think he just used it as it was a more convenient way to say it rather than "get more detailed data on the combat performance of characters in game." This is the only post in the thread that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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