a_Stalker Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I was there for SWG. Massive excitement in the office. I played and was hooked for a year. It became part of life. I took the PC with me on holidays so as not to miss out on rare resource spawns. I became the 2nd master weaponsmith on the server. There were only 3 of us. We formed a guild and had a player city. Massive real life effort to get the necessary players to join us, buy and build houses, village hall, and a shuttle port. We even had other players accounts that we logged on just to pull it though. Playing for hours in the evenings until early hours in the morning - mostly crafting or talking to others. So much talking. We had village halls meetings and group hunting parties for rancors. The game was a massive time sink. Nothing could be done solo, you always needed online players to do anything meaningful, even to heal yourself you needed an online doctor. To buy a house you'd need to travel to the ends of the world and find the ONLINE architect to sell you one. Hours nad hours trying to find someone to do anything. Hours spent "shopping" where we would visit a planet and scour the country side for any houses in case they had vendors selling anything nice inside. To play this game you had to have no life, no family, no friends. And the rewards were pitiful. Then I got on to WoW just as it came out. I had one negative impression about how primitive crafting was in WOW compared to SWG. But the rest of the game simply blew me away. I could play WOW and progress solo - unheard of in SWG. I could group if I wanted to, go grind a few mobs, run an dungeon - I also had rested bonus. I would reach the top level in any way I chose, there were no restrictions. I would explore an open, smooth world. I would be attacked by invading Horde (on a PvE server) and scared to leave Auberdine. The trip from Auberdine to Astranaar, the exploration, excitement, anticipation, the damned Horde hiding behind the trees ready to pounce, the atmosphere. The sea shore on the one side, the mountains on the other, with a thousand places to go to and explore. It would take you 10-15 minutes just to run down to Astranaar assuming you never stopped to look, never got attacked. And that was 1/20 or even less of the map. It was an immersive fully three dimensional world where you would quest, PvP, solo, explore - anywhere you wanted and when you wanted. Every zone you visited would immerse you in its own atmosphere, and if you dared you would try to run from one zone to the other trying to hide and stay alive. Ironforge was a bustling place your graphics would crawl to a halt from the number of players around you, Stormwind was awesome, PvPing outside the front gates of both cities was immense, the trade chat was flaming. It was an unbelievable world. No loading screens, massive in size - all you ever wanted was there. I am sorry to say SWTOR is a miserable excuse for what WOW was in 2004 and much more what it is now. There is no immersion, there is no exploration, there is just endless corridors, marked paths, loading screens. You spend so much time in your own instance, be that your hangar, your spaceship, your quests. You run on planets but you cannot explore because it is all props on either side of your path. You meet people it's true but there is nothing like the world of WOW. It is just a series of single player games taking place on disjointed little maps, called planets, no continuity, no immersion. Total failure. Completely failed to captivate me. Grinding through Coruscant tested all my strength as an MMO player and Nar Shaddaa was the final straw. Running around on Tatoine with invisible walls and obstacles and backdrops all the way, nothing to explore. What a waste of money this has been. I really prefer to level another toon in WOW and relive the experience, even though I have seen it all, than to grind levels in this single player, sterile world which has more loading screens than explorable places. And then we can also talk about all the omissions and all the bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganadorf Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nah, SWTOR wasn't a waste of money, it's one of the best single player RPGs I've ever played in my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merex Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Nah, SWTOR wasn't a waste of money, it's one of the best single player RPGs I've ever played in my life Trololol. Seriously. Go back to your other game. Why are you still here? You canceled a week ago. Edited January 11, 2012 by Merex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovarBoy Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Trololol. Seriously. Go back to your other game. Why are you still here? You canceled a week ago. And now he hasn't got any permission to write down to the forums?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_Stalker Posted January 11, 2012 Author Share Posted January 11, 2012 What game is Ganadlf?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossaK Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Nah, SWTOR wasn't a waste of money, it's one of the best single player RPGs I've ever played in my life That isn't fair. It's a Co-op game with mmo elements duct-taped on to it. Its the sith apocalypse, yo. Bring friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganadorf Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Inb4 Ganadorf/Shady. Dude seriously posts something nonsensical in every thread. Back on topic. Beating a dead horse here. Numerous threads have popped up about the same feelings you have. The game is what it is and creating a more immersive world is probably a lot more work than Bioware is up for now that the game has launched. Some people don't mind the themepark style and others consider it so drastic that Swtor shouldn't be classified as an MMO. WoW is still there for you. Edit: WOW I still couldn't beat Ganadorf. Unbelievable. I work the night shift at work and it's 4 AM. Why are you even up? Guy doesn't sleep. Trolls all day. Did you even read what I said? I complimented the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaikie Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 /Signed *Tatooine exhaustion zones was the last straw for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeshJedi Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 I'll take this OP with a grain of salt to. There was no issue solo leveling in SWG. And crafting was just a *****, but some people enjoyed it. The player cities where awesome but poorly implemented. Vanguard did the SWG style player housing and cities right. Unfortunately it suffered the same fate as SWG. People don't wantsandboxgames with freedom. Also since when was you as one person "players" you're one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technotica Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) Damn you OP! Now I want to play SWG again (while your recount of the WoW days was great too, the whole family thing of SWG and the epicness of the sandbox just beats everything) Edited January 11, 2012 by Technotica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw_dragon Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 (edited) I think its a fair assessment. I am enjoying the game at the moment, but i enjoyed WoW for about 4 years. This one will probably last me about 3 months if im being totally honest then i may just give up MMO's altogether. They just seem to be going backwards Edited January 11, 2012 by sw_dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJestR Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 And now he hasn't got any permission to write down to the forums?... Not really, but when someone do something, it's either they enjoy it, paid to do it or it's a necessary chore. But of course it could be he enjoys trolling , I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrevan Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 ↓ see sig on how (and why) to cancel the WoW Annual Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esresro Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 Trololol. Seriously. Go back to your other game. Why are you still here? You canceled a week ago. Stalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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