Gildonbuc Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Smugglers are by far the most absurdly designed class. In battle stealth means you can't kill them. We have 3 50s on our server that NEVER die. Their cc and dmg combination are stupid. It is just NOT fun to play against a class that can stealth away when you get them past half health and can stun you then do the kind of dmg they can do. No class should be able to lead in dmg by the margins they do and have the cc and stealth as well. By far the most poorly thought out class in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 placement aoe attacks work good for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroicSock Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) +1 All the people who say otherwise are midway through leveling theirs and don't want the nerfbat. But yes, it's bloody ridiculous - and they can heal. Edited January 6, 2012 by HeroicSock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 +1 All the people who say otherwise are midway through leveling theirs and don't want the nerfbat. But yes, it's bloody ridiculous - and they can heal. should l2play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dampiel Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 +1 But yes, it's bloody ridiculous - and they can heal. This actually gets to me, its one thing to add a class that can dps extreemly well in pvp like the operative and smuggler, but to add in the survivability they have is plain stupid. I dont care 1 bit about the damage, im a tank they can nock me down and by the time i get back up ill have all the damae they did healed anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanileth Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 As people get better gear, the bursty face demolishing from smugglers/imperal agents will go down fast. Then we will have a bunch of QQ about them needing a buff because they die in 2 hits from everyone else... the cycle of whine/nerf/whine/buff will continue. Just deal with it! - Use escape early from their concealed strike, knockback and get the hell away from them = vanished/dead smuggler/IA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysthirsty Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 2m CD on combat stealth, thank you come again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortcake Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 This actually gets to me, its one thing to add a class that can dps extreemly well in pvp like the operative and smuggler, but to add in the survivability they have is plain stupid. I dont care 1 bit about the damage, im a tank they can nock me down and by the time i get back up ill have all the damae they did healed anyway. what survivability, smuggler heals without healing spec are terrible, l2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niconogood Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Remove stealth from the scoundrel/operative class. Case solved. Then their immense damageoutput will actually be somewhat en par with the risk on running up in melee with their medium armor. Cause right now its just ridiculous how they can roflstomp any class in the game with no risk to themselves whatsoever. Edited January 6, 2012 by Niconogood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloopik Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Put money down the OP is a sorc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwaysthirsty Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) Remove stealth from the scoundrel/operative class. Case solved. Then their immense damageoutput will actually be somewhat en par with the risk on running up in melee with their medium armor. This made my morning, you do understand that we're pretty useless outside of stealth right? OP is sorc, got killed by his counterclass. QQ Edited January 6, 2012 by Alwaysthirsty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerconverter Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 what survivability, smuggler heals without healing spec are terrible, l2p this imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spigotwelder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 yeah take their stealth, the class with literally 0 options to stay on target if someone decides they are tired of getting shiv'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatanic Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Hasnt all serious pvpers already rerolled smuggler/operative? If not do so at once and stop crying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spigotwelder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 no because smugretives aren't very good in organized pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanileth Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Remove stealth from the scoundrel/operative class. Case solved. Then their immense damageoutput will actually be somewhat en par with the risk on running up in melee with their medium armor. Cause right now its just ridiculous how they can roflstomp any class in the game with no risk to themselves whatsoever. You should reroll operative, try to get into melee with someone to stab it in the face without stealth, and then reconsider your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spigotwelder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 here's what operatives need to be on par with other melee actual survivability CDs out of stealth, a way to stay on target, a gap closer if none of the above can be done then operatives should be able to have increased healing with their TA active (without consuming charges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurV Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 op as hell ... open on a tank and by the time the tank is back on the feet he lost 60% hp. Not normal, this needs to be checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spigotwelder Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 what makes you think a tank should be able to walk away from burst damage through 50% armor pen better for the wear than any other class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurV Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 (edited) What makes you think an operative should be able to do this? So you wanna say that operatives should be able to kill easily all classes. That just proves my point Edited January 6, 2012 by LaurV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesmcalli Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Pretty sad when the supposedly ranged classes do better damage from stealth at melee range than the actual melee stealthers do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniigoldo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 NP inc nerf for operatives/scoundrel gonna all those naps crying when its coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniigoldo Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 What makes you think an operative should be able to do this? So you wanna say that operatives should be able to kill easily all classes. That just proves my point they do kill all classes with eaze....stun kk seconds 3 shot..back to hide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gildonbuc Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 2m CD on combat stealth, thank you come again! Perfect solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goz_- Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 How long will it take until people will notice that these unbelieveable high crits are the results of overpowered Stims, Trinkets? First balance gear and afterwards classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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