xandax Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Exactly. This extra time is no special thing Bioware is giving us. We bought this time by giving them expected future sales. But you didn't buy 'guaranteed access at day X'. You bought a part in the EGA, details to come. That was the deal, that was the legal text, that was what you accepted to. Edited December 14, 2011 by xandax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastchimp Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 EA/bioware are to blame for all this we already know people on forum are not alway very gracious... What they are playing is creating a privileged group inside the communauty then create a more privileged group inside that privileged group etc... it the best way to alienate people it's not clever to go for something like "we want to make sure we "reward" the people who pre-order the game the 5 more then the people who pre-order it the 18" that slow artificial line for early access (aka un-official release date for 1million of players) is stupid, it was obvious it will create a very bad mood in the forum (place that usualy dont need help for that) today was the "light" period for qq thread Wait for friday or worst saturday if there is still pre-order folks waiting to get in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAidennwitz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 LMAO! Yeah, did the Amazon rep sit you down with their lawyer and go through that 18 page document with you too? My quote had nothing to do with anything you said. Good job though. Making my job easier. Think THEN write. ps. im drunk, but still sexy Hmm... That wasn't a reply to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordequester Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 ofcourse theres the subtle difference between standing an hour in line and standing UP TO 7 days in line..If you're standing at your computer, you're using it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikalonius Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Spot the communist... i bet he thinks that everyone should have the exact same income too, no matter what kind of job they have. It shouldnt bother you so much, you had the EXACT same chance of pre-ordering on the 21st of july as ANYONE else. Ask a Russian in the 80s standing in a bread line if they think it is fair that everyone isn't getting fed at the same time. And they were promised and egalitarian utopia. BioWare made no such promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zackath Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 People should think of it as a BETA imo: Pre-order and get a chance (keyword: chance) to play the game up to 5-7 days before the official launch. I'm mad about it and i feel like Bioware and EA shot an arrow in my KNEE but eh, imma play the game in 4 days i waited 1 whole year (even more i knew about the game for a long time) 4 or more days isnt alot. (Screw me tho i pre-ordered at DAY ONE of pre-order but waited till december 2011 to redeem my code LOL.. F A I L!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choxor Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Exactly. This extra time is no special thing Bioware is giving us. We bought this time by giving them expected future sales. Yeah, getting the chance to play for free before launch isn't special. How the hell did you buy something you're not paying for? You could cancel your preorder and STILL play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Desperado Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I bet you wish you'd pre-ordered in July now, don't you? Just like all the people that wish they'd invested in Apple back in the day. Hindsight is always 20/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonx Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I am pretty sure retailers do not need to tell you a computer is needed for being able to play a COMPUTERgame. Same as they do not need to tell you knittingneedles are needed when you buy wool and a patern for a sweater. There's something called obvious, i.e all pc games require pc. So yea they won't say that. BUT untill now ALL early access ALLOWED ALL pre order players to LOG IN. Bioware changed that, as such it's not obvious result and every client should've been informed beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAidennwitz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I have the damn box, dvd's, code for a full game and a friggin bill So what? The release is on the 20th. Go QQ some more. I also have my retail box already btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaloralros Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Exactly. This extra time is no special thing Bioware is giving us. We bought this time by giving them expected future sales. And they haven't lied. "Up to 5 days early game access". If we go by them, being contractually bound to provide you with all five days of access, you are STILL -1 days into early access. But they said UP TO 5 days, which means you could still be waiting 5 MORE days to get in, and they STILL would not have lied, and STILL would be providing EXACTLY what they said they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evarg Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Ahhh, yes. Wow Cataclysm... Because they DIDN'T have what? 6 years? To get the servers running and stabilized, figure out EXACTLY how many players would be there, and to ramp up and prepare for the launch? Oh yah... and it was STILL unplayable for many, for many days. Hmmmmm. Seems to me that only being in -6 days from launch, they be doing a pretty fine job Did you play Cata? Was fine after 20 mins when Blizzard did a no server restart to introduce cata. Wasn't their fault a million people hammered their login server. SWTOR has had just as long to get servers working. You think that they waited for game to be finished and then just decided to start working on hardware last week? They have had a million pre-orders since July and still had a lousy launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilax Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey people, why not do it this way: When its your turn to get into the game, choose to wait for a brand new server? This way you would not get any disadvatages vs the early access people. If your planning to go to pvp servers this should really be an interesting thought and all those "haha, im in first! im going to gank the newcomers lolololo" will have done all their power levling for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neamhan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you think it is, take it up with consumer protection group in your given country. I doubt they'll address it though. I think you've fallen into the sarchasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrAidennwitz Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It wasn't called bonus time when i bought the game, ads said i'd secure the early access. No, it didn't. Read the fine print on the pre-order code card, it helps. Reading is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikalonius Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you're standing at your computer, you're using it wrong. I think we need a new meme. LLOL. Literally Laughed out Loud. Even though LOL, back in my day, actually meant you had. Good one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarceLol Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Okay, you say it's fair and I totally get why. I'm not even mad at this, just disappointed. When has pre-ordering a game EVER meant that you didn't get to play in the launch? Sure the official launch is the 20th but this is still a launch. People are playing the full game before a lot of us. That's a launch to me. I just want to know why they decided to cut so many people out of this experience. The launches of games are madness, chaos, and most importantly FUN. I remember all of my previous launches because they were memorable for one reason or another. This one will be memorable for what? Not letting a majority of us in even though we pre-ordered to support this game and company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecclesiarch Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 OP actually made me rage ... Oh well, back to playing my char that will soon gank his because of my insane level advantage. First day early access up in this. - Ecc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtonx Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey people, why not do it this way: When its your turn to get into the game, choose to wait for a brand new server? This way you would not get any disadvatages vs the early access people. If your planning to go to pvp servers this should really be an interesting thought and all those "haha, im in first! im going to gank the newcomers lolololo" will have done all their power levling for nothing. ever heard of guilds ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hordequester Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Ask a Russian in the 80s standing in a bread line if they think it is fair that everyone isn't getting fed at the same time. And they were promised and egalitarian utopia. BioWare made no such promise.In America, you wait for an invite In Soviet Russia, the invite waits for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neamhan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 ofcourse theres the subtle difference between standing an hour in line and standing UP TO 7 days in line.. Yes. If you're standing in line you're stuck there. You're free to go about your life while waiting for your early access, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaloralros Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Did you play Cata? Was fine after 20 mins when Blizzard did a no server restart to introduce cata. Wasn't their fault a million people hammered their login server. SWTOR has had just as long to get servers working. You think that they waited for game to be finished and then just decided to start working on hardware last week? They have had a million pre-orders since July and still had a lousy launch. July... yes, because THAT equates to 6 years of planning, with a confirmed count of subscriptions and such. And.."Wasn't their fault a million people hammered their login server. ".. what would happen if they opened it up for all to login, RIGHT NOW? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullowit Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Hey people, why not do it this way: When its your turn to get into the game, choose to wait for a brand new server? This way you would not get any disadvatages vs the early access people. If your planning to go to pvp servers this should really be an interesting thought and all those "haha, im in first! im going to gank the newcomers lolololo" will have done all their power levling for nothing. This is what I am planning to do. Start on a nice new server. You even get that new server smell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desdecardo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 They purchased PREORDER exactly what i purchased You pre-ordered it after the window Bioware had. It wasnt just posted on the internet. It was in print media. I got news letter emails from three different sites that mentioned it on the very top article in the email. And like I said earlier. Companies do this now a days. Have a smartdevice? (Phone, GoogleTV, etc?) Its the same concept behind this. Even Microsoft staggers update releases now a days. Ever had a smooth, major, MMO crash? Some even had roll backs because the character databases corrupted. Others spent most of the time down for the first week because the servers and the various hardware and modules used for various things such as naming conventions and character creation couldnt handle this. Besides that had to of been done was read the website because there were posts on this going back to July. And people talking about it on the forums. Being upset isnt going to help. People are upset with this. I was upset when my Logitech Revue didnt get the Honeycomb update till the last day of the release period. I didnt go and express my grief in a public forum and start a war on the forums. I just waited. Which is what people need to start doing with a lot of tech now a days. You cant get instant gratification all the time. Thats just a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncy_Hunter Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 when you pre ordered the game it told you how early access works, IN THE ORDER YOU REDEEM YOUR CODE. I don't know maybe yall trolling or you just can't read either way stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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