Sorry for the belated reply. Absoloutly Rush, there are criticisms that are as you say, are nonsense. I did touch on that. I agree completely the thing is, I am not really addressing those complaints of complaints because I do agree they are valid as they do not need to be address precisely for that reason. I don't say what I am talking about is always the case or even the majority, only that it is the injustice so which is why I am pointing it out. The subtext you detected was there though it was a little unintentional but in hindsight I should have made it clearer. Projectalpha, again there are examples of what you are talking about and I agree they can be valid but I also see arguments dismissed outright straight away. In fact I have seen the exact example you mention, more than one person making a big song and dance, demanding how this should change and what not and threatening to go back to WoW. In fact the last one that motivated my thread here was a person complaining about their class. Now, I freely admit some of what he said was just wrong, and the situation is not as bad as he thinks it is, however even the valid points were just dismissed outright and the ubiquitous qq was thrown out there in about 5 seconds, literally the first reply. The, class balance for numerous reasons is such a touchy issue. Maybe it just puts a person has a defencive when a negative opinion of something is expressed about something which the other party is invested in. Maybe qq has just become fashionable. DarthXalan, I am of the opinion those come much more from religion as you pointed out and society more than the government. That however is not really in the scope of this thread suffice to say, I do see the logic and to an extent agree. Nevur, I think you just hit on half of the issues with people on the internet. The other half being anonymity removing accountability. I want to emphasize absoloutly you have all pointed out valid examples but it is precisely because they are valid that those are not the examples I am talking about.