I use an i5 4210M with nvidia 825M graphics and it handles SWTOR maxed out comfortably. It's a 1.5 year old laptop that I bought for about £500 brand new but I imagine it would be a lot cheaper now.

Oh god, yes. My IA is begging for a pistol! He even has one in cut scenes...

I agree. If the OP is really interested in leveling an agent then the best advice is to stay away from the spoilers. I just started chapter 2 and am massively impressed by the storyline. The beginning of this chapter has opened so many "what ifs" that I am genuinely eager to carry on the story - not something I felt with my SW.

Or go to You Tube and search Imperial Agent Storyline

After leveling a SW and finding the story pretty bland, I just hit the start of chapter 2 on my Operative and I'm still picking my jaw up from the floor. Fantastic start to the chapter!

General whine Generic insult about some part of the world Some sort of complaint about being a 2nd rate customer There, I now feel like I've made a positive contribution.

Ok, 1 more.. I have already agreed that pure DPS ACs deserve to be looked at in a duel spec world. Back about 15-20 pages ago at a guess... Sure give them a buffing role aswell, or something else. The fact still stands though, how can a PURE DPS AC complain that they can't heal or tank after duel specs when they couldn't heal or tank BEFORE duel specs? But, in closing - like I said - in the name of fairness, let them have a support role aswell. NOW, I'm going to bed. It's been a fun debate.

I'm done throwing back your arguments. If you can't see that anything you say to try and reject a widely used game mechanic boils down to opinion and conjecture, then I wont waste anymore of my time. I have to sleep and work now like a normal human being.

So you don't want there to be a duel spec option incase you get asked to take a role you don't like to help out your raid? You would deny the rest of the playerbase a game mechanic because you chose a demanding playstyle, but want to limit its affect on you? That's a bit selfish, isn't it?

What you just described is where the game is right now. Pure DPS classes can't heal or tank - yet I don't see any outpooring anywhere complaining that they can't get a group over a hybrid class. As for MajikMyst, if the best you can do is misquote me then you don't have an arguement. You have a Sage but don't like healing - good for you, but tell me who would be coming over to your house holding a gun to your head forcing you to have a healing spec. Please put a bit of effort in your reply this time - don't just edit my words.

I still don't see any compelling case not to introduce a duel spec system. Sure there's a lot of subjective reasoning as to why it's a bad idea - other MMOs felt worse afterwards, players will get left out, some classes will be affected differently than others... The simple fact remains that a duel spec system would let everyone have just that - a 2nd spec. Whether that lets you take on a DPS role aswell as a healing role, or lets you change from a mobile DPS role to a stationary DPS role, the fact is it's still allows you to set your skill points out in a differnt way. Whilst I can understand some of the points against it, 99% of them are based on opinion. With nearyly every major (and minor?) MMO on the market today having some sort of duel spec system, I'd wager that statistics would not back these arguements. Games don't suddenly fall apart, people will always find a way into groups - even if they are terrible and people that role pure DPS classes are normally happy to be able to have the 2nd spec to tinker with new setups and min/max the way they want. It's just offereing another option to cater for a different playstyle. "You want to heal and DPS? Roll an alt!" Does not offer as much flexablity as, "You want to heal and DPS? Roll an alt, or use your 2nd spec!"

In my normal day to day life, 9 times out of 10 yes. Normally is work related where I'm paid to do that kind of thing anyway. In game? Depends. There are plenty of people that we - as a guild - have helped out and they turned out to be good people how just needed a poke in the right direction. Other that I/we haven't helped based on their attitude or whatever and added to our ignore lists. Dealing with people wether good or bad isn't a reason to reject a game mechanic. And FYI - like you I rarely PUG aswell, normally I group with friends and we'll pick up an extra to fill a spot if we're short.

Of course I disagree. If I didn't then I would certainly be guilty of trolling. You keep trying to lump duel specs in with everything else that you feel made "that other game" worse. This is your opinion, not based on fact. I too have been playing MMOs for more years than I have fingers. Duel specs and UI mods didn't ruin the community of "that other game", that community was terrible to begin with - that's the trouble with a mass market - vocal idiots will always shout louder than everyone else. Now, in MY opinion - all the MMOs I've played long enough to be able to form a solid opinion that also have some form of game mechanic that lets you have multiple skill point specs has been enhanced by it. Therefore I see no reason why it wont work here. Where did I say that? You accuse me of making false statements in the same post.

I do actually. There you go again making wild assumptions based on your on opinion.

Couple points in your post that I'd like to raise. 1. You seem to agree that duel spec is needed "This is the situation lots of people are complaining about right now. That they wait several hours to get a group." 2. You seem to have something against "bad players". Unless you're employing them to play the game and paying them a wage to meet a certain standard then the fact that they might be bad has no bearing on wether or not duel specs will make them any worse or better. You meet people that are bad at things all the time in everyday life - most of the time once you find out they are bad at something you either don't ask them to do it again or you teach them. 3. Duel specs =/= DPS meters, UI mods or fluffy bears that hug you every 5 minutes and tell you how much XP you have to get until your next ding. 4. You then go on to make astounding predictions about the furure of the game based on what would happen if duel specs were implimented, ranging from people becoming jerks to the downfall of the entire game. That's quite impressive.