Before the thread gets out of hand, discussing how the leadership role works as it is, can we agree on wether or not it should be made in to a choice of wether or not each person joining a WZ would like to be the leader of that group? I sure do.

So what you're saying is that lore should have a impact on PvP gameplay? Well then, **** any and everyone who's not a force user, since lorewise, people who can use the force are alot more "powerfull" than people who can't. If you specc tank, you get quite a bit of survivability, but you will loose out on damage. Get yourself a pocket healer or something, and start playing your class like it's meant, start interrupting, force throwing, simply use your utility, because you're not there to do damage. You chose to not specc damage, thus your damage will be worse than others. If you DO go for a damage specc, let's say Focus... those 5k crits on everyone arround you really sucks, don't they? Before anyone starts whining about me just being butthurt and hates guardians... I play a guardian my self.

If you're calling QQ for simply whining in general then i'd say inq/con but if QQ is unwarranted whining, then i wouldn't know untill i can see the impact of the changes

I have no idea how it really works, but the previous poster seemed to, so i was merely directing my question towards him/her. What does the "numeric highest valor" mean? As you say, i've allso seen lower ranks getting leader over a higher ranking player, i've allso been appointed leader, and gotten it taken away when a lower level and ranking player joined.

Got to say, well written and thought out post OP, kudos on that, but one thing i don't really like about it; WoW as it is now can be said to be pretty much "balanced" arround the 3v3 arena comp, and i fear that some of the problems of rated BGS come from exactly this, the pvp isn't balanced for those 10v10 or 15v15 settings, but rather 3 people. I would really like to see SWTOR being balanced arround a 8v8 rated WZ concept before taking the arena setting into consideration, and I don't feel like saying "balancing with arena is easier/better", because that is simply a matter of opinion. With that said, i would still like to participate in arena matches in SWTOR.

what do you mean by highest numeric valor count? actually don't understand what this means : p do you mean if someone has 5k/7k on rank 30something, they will be promoted to lead over someone on 4k/15k (or whatever it is) on rank 45+? And also: I support this, because even though there are a few "workarrounds" to the leader-issue, there shouldn't have to be. If i'm just killing time and taking a few warzones i would like to not have to think about leader role, and having to promote others/marking etc. And if i'm going for a serious pvp session and would like to lead the group, i should make that a choice, instead of it being thrown arround "random" (and it really is random, if it's the way the previous poster said it is, and i understood him correctly)

Supported! way to much confusion about which door to go to when someone call incs, sadly enough : /

I have seen more juggs/guards top damage than marauder/sent. So damage is still pretty viable if you play correctly. You can choose a good warrior dps class and go mara/sent or you can go a warrior dps class with pretty much the same damage, with some more utility and control you could go jugg/guard

True Ruugan, and thanks for the link to taugrim, but that's actually the only PvP blog that i frequent, the thing is i want other input, other points ov view etc ;p

I often troll arround these forums to get some input on PvP, theorycrafting etc, but i find that more often than not i end up reading posts based arround QQ and nerf-summoning, than anything informative. What i'm looking for is something like arenajunkies or anything similaire. Not saying that arenajunkies don't fall pray to some whining every now and then, but i still miss the hard PvP-focused community that they provide to WoW, for SWTOR. Is there such a site, if so, does anyone care to share? : )

First of all, the fact that you don't understand how this would screw over entire servers means you should stay away from the topic. Second, the case you're trying to make about force users being overpowered, and lower levels not having a chance... well it's just plain wrong, so please stop, you're embarassing yourself. Well, true level 50s have quite an advantage, but they are fixing that with the new 50 brackets, so that shouldn't be a concern anymore. Apart from that, your entire post is just wrong.

But that's not what's happening, people with no need for the item what so ever is automatically allocated the said item. Our jedi knight tank got a saber which would benefit our sentinel dps greatly, while the tank didn't actually need it