I'm currently a level 30 Guardian spec to Vigilance. I hated the tanking experience with the Guardian because along the way I found little threat generation making my tanking very difficult. So around level 25 I just quit the Defense tree and respec to Vigilance tree. I know I'm not a level 50 to have a viable opinion, but I shouldn't have to kill myself to get level 50 to spec a decent tank. I should be a decent tank along the way to level 50 and an awesome one at the end of it all. I am much more effective at tanking with a Vanguard and it's not even level 40(it's level 25). My point is that the Guardian Defense tree is lacking threat generation and the abilities we need to tank is in the higher levels and even so its not effecient(so I hear from other forums). I shouldnt have to wait to lvl 50 to be good at tanking.

I think the defense tree need ls to be reworked. Allow some skills that increase threat on cyclone slash or force sweep. Also add some more passive skills in lower tiers that increases shield chance. The tree is not focused enought on threat generation.

Thank alot guys. Ill test this class out for myself to see how i like it. It sounds like a challenging healing class but i might be well worth it

Hey guys im thinking about running a scoundrel healing spec healer class. I would just like some opinions from players who played with the class. What am I going to expect? Are there any issues with the healing aspect of the class? Would it be better to run in pve or pvp? Any opinions and advices are greatly appreciated.

I do not know how the class is in pvp but even in pve i find myself struggling to maintain aggro generation in tanking. Especially compared to my pvp vanguard that is a great protector and very difficult to take out. The class gets a lil better in latter lvls but its not anything special.

I have the same threat issue with my guardian compared with my vangaurd. My vanguard has plenty to offer in AoE threat where my guardian has none. Even in later levels where I have challenging call, vanguard has an AoE taunt of its own. On top of that my vanguard can taunt, harpoon, and even storm which is the same as force leap to a pull. In short compared to other classes atm guardian is the least effective tank. So until this issue is settled(if ever) then i just roll my guardian as a heavily armored dps off tanking

I have gotten my vanguard up to lvl 30 so far and I love it so far. I see a lot of players use the vanguard at long range which is a bad habit. Once u get used to the concept of the close ranged ranged dps it'll be fun to play. Vanguards have harpoon and AoE threat not to mention storm once obtain on the skill tree. As for ammo as you go up the shield specialist tree your shield chances will increase, activating skills that increase crit chance and surge and even recharge your cells. On top of all that shielding you can give it a hefty armor rating. Compared to my Jedi Guardian I feel this class is a better tank. I personally like to keep abilities that focus on CQC on my hotbar when i was lvl 14-20 ion pulse, sticky gren, pulse cannon, stockstrike, cryo gren, recharge cells, guard, and ion cell, and impact bolt. I thought these would be the best abilities to use for it and have other abilites as back up.

fights are faster because Kira is dps. Doc is a healer and if ur tanking it'll take longer to go through mobs. Doc is better because he ensures ur survival.....if u protect him.

No there is no hood toggle. It would be cool if they add it in the future

I've played against Kira's brother and as a Jedi Sent. I had no heavy armor for dmg mitigation and no tank with me because I had no choice but to bring Kira and she isn't a tank. I think that particular fight isn't as hard to do it as a Guard. but he wooped my *** everytime and that's with transcedence, force kick, saber ward, rebuke, etc. and med packs. I thought it was a miracle when I beat him lol But I figure sent. are challenging but towards 50 i think all the deaths and hard work will be worth it. Knights are a challenging class to play.

I think taunt is only one of a few problems with the Guardians tanking abilities. Guardians have a few abilities that generate threat and even those few abilities have long cooldowns. I feel that there needs to be a change in order for this. Warding Call an ability that we *need* to obtain before getting Hilt Strike can reduce damage taken by 40% while Saber Ward reduces damage taken by 50% and it reduces 25% more from tech/force damaga. Yet they both have the same cooldown of 3 min. Hilt Strike has a cooldown of one min while it generates high threat. I feel that there isnt enough in a guardian when it comes to generating threat and holding it. And it "shakes my head" that I can tank with a vanguard better than a guardian. I love to tank and I love to be a Jedi. I shouldn't have to feel divided because my vanguard can do it better than my guardian.

I think we should also consider Warding Call. Have the cooldown reduced to 1min 30sec or 2 min in stead of a suffering 3 min. I feel that it's a waste of a skill point and ability when Guardian already has saber ward that does a much better job.

thank for the multiple advices too

thanks alot for the reply's guys. I'm right now with Guardian and Vanguard. I find it easier to tank as a Vanguard(in my opinion) but I'll keep my Jedi Guard because I like him too.

I didn't think about it social wise. I think it would be good if it's balanced between LS/DS. It would be cool if they added emotes and cosmetics too. SWTOR is young. I love to see what they will add to it down the road.