Good operative/scoundrel healers are similar to this on live now and will only be stronger when 2.0 hits. This may be old but man I remember those days that you could beat on a commando healer and just not hurt em. I'm not asking for super commando's again, but they need to get back to this point or near it to compete.

Logged in this morning, haven't respecd in over 2 weeks, tried out double strike and had no stacks showing up to reduce the next project. Double checked to make sure I had the points into which I did. Can someone else please confirm this is not working for Infil builds.

This wasn't a whine, What I originally asked is how much is too much to BW. Also to the guy above that questioned low aim read the intro I said I was at respawn and hadn't rebuffed yet. I flat out want to know if they are designing pvp for people to be 3-4 shot or if they want it to stretch a little longer. Even the best geared dps at 20k can get roflstomped fast with stuns etc. They used to nerf any class that could break 5k and it was hella hard to break 5k, and now it's common to see 5-7k dmg from Snipers, Bh's, Juggs etc. Hell I'll be the first to admit I can dish out some nice dmg as well with double railshot and Td going off theres 10-15k right there as well. I've been playing since beta and originally the dmg was never this fast coming in. If it was they'd nerf it. Why they continue to let it scale out of control as players figure out ways to min/max power into thier builds is bypassing what they saw for the original design of Expertise.

I'm just curious what you would consider acceptable damage. Here I am at 1287 expertise and got force sweeped for 6153 damage. Granted I'm missing 1500 hps cause i'm not rebuffed and usually sit around close to 18k, but is it ok to drop 1/3 of your hit points off in one attack followed up with a guaranteed force scream that hits for 3-5k and a finishing move for another 5k. With 3 possible hits I can go from full to dang near dead in a matter of seconds with high expertise. It doesn't matter if I'm at 1350 or 1200 the smash/sweep damage is just too much. Here's a pic of me getting hit by a force sweep that finished me off http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd348/Nagasakisan/1287_zps345b34a6.jpg

Don't touch my Defense gear. I'll take it anyday of the week over Dps gear. If I guard a healer I can easily take on 4-5 people at once almost indefinatly on my Jugg. The problem is people think "Useless" is anything under 300k dmg in a warzone. When i'm doing 200k dmg and 200k protection in a warzone that's far from useless. Most days when I'm in full tank gear pugging it up It's hilarious to see some Jugg come up and smash me for like 3k and go ***? Then I proceed to whittle em down and kill em. Im in a warzone to help play defense, most people are playing offense but at the end of the game, my Objective score and medals are almost always higher than anyone elses. It's funny having nearly the entire team on the other side beating on you as you casually walk across the firepit and into the endzone while they are trying to kill you in Hutball. I like being Indestructible.

New sound sounds like i'm firing off a pea shooter vs the kewl dual glock cannons i used to pack.. Bring back the old sound please!

If you can't hang with a battle master with full recruit gear i'm not sure what to say. The difference is less than 5%. dr=damage reduction. Recruit is 15.41% dr Dmg bonus - 18.2% Battlemaster is 18.18% dr Dmg Bonus -22.23% War Hero is 19.32% dr , Dmg Bonus 23.95% Do you want them to hand you kills on a plate, If you can't play within 5% not sure what to tell ya. It's all about the interupts, 4k hp diff is nothing. Go read the stats http://dulfy.net/2012/03/22/pvp-gearing-in-1-2/

I bought a full suit of recruit gear minus the Champion head/boots i was wearing and this is what I threw down. I think we're sitting pretty, same build I was running before. Still breaking 3-mid 4k railshots and td's in the lower 4ks with recruit gear. Not bad. http://s1048.photobucket.com/albums/s368/1Kholt45/