snipers are great, there's just only 1 or 2 per server good enough to play one in 4s

there's a place for even average pvpers. in wow it was called rival or challenger. did you earn those titles at least? i help people all the time on pot5 who send me tells or talk to me in mumble (since i'm one of the few people to successfully do 4s on a merc and sorc since pts). i do not respond well to forum whiners, naysayers, or people in general chat on fleet. while you are right that pvp requires more awareness and decision making, the concept is still the same. rewarding for success, not average play or failure. overcoming obstacles, improving dps, hps, tanking...whatever...in order to defeat what is in front of you. sounds rp...but that's really what pvp is too.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=698024 this thread sums it up for sorcs at least

cuz guys like you whine on the forums instead of seeking out good players to become better nice basement analogy btw. even in lolpve, they don't get rewarded for failing. if they want the best gear, they actually have to down the boss. amazing concept i know. fps, story mode, dailies and whatever give nice gear that casuals can do, or hardcores when they're bored...much like regs and solo queue should be for pvpers team ranked, aka nightmare raiding, should give the best gear and encourage people to compete against others, but also to individually improve and learn to work as a team.

lolsoloqueue

if they had cross server, you'd be right. the game's population is way too low to support this theory. people are only in regs and solo queue to get the gear. and then once they are top geared, they want to feel like a hero but still barely stand out in regs. i guarantee you that whatever path you lead the sheep, they will go, whether it's the most fun to them or not. the majority of pvpers would probably like to at least try 4v4, but they know with the low populations, they will have to get stomped by people much better than them. if they knew that they'd have to make teams and queue up just like everyone else, they'd get more even competition with the occasional whooping, just like it is now in regs. instead, people know they can just stay in regs and solo queue forever and not have to worry about getting better or facing actual competition.

every server knows which guilds do this. they dodge 4s and still barely break .500 in solo

casuals aka bads, can get their fix in normal wz or solo queue. it doesn't need to reward the best gear. participation (for 99% of "pvpers") is only because of a desire to get the best set of gear. if the best set of gear is only accessible through team ranked, then people are forced to participate in order to get it. if you can't see this, you are bad and i bid you to stay small

i guess you were bad at sports growing up and needed your participation ribbon as well play an xbox game if you want fun and to feel like a hero player vs player should always be centered around competition and being the best you can

class balance is mostly fine, it's just people aren't good enough. they need to practice more. the major issue is bringing the other two healers up to the level of ops. madness sins need some love. dps ops can have a spot, but everyone generally agrees they need help too. the majority of mmo players are driven by gear, this is a fact. if they knew the only way to get gear was to win in team arena, you can bet a lot more people would be doing it. exactly like it works in WoW (with their ranked system). all that queuing would eventually lead to people experimenting with comps and improving in general

i only played the kuat space map because i could only stand one night of it. 3 objectives which are spaced out way too far. by the time you said "i need help at obj c" it would be lost long before people got there. so if you like flying around a particular spot on the map, i guess it's objective based. most people were just trying to dogfight in beta...and you can bet your *** they will do the same thing on live i think all the ship customization and whatnot is cool, and definitely gives you something different to grind if your friends aren't online. i seriously can't see hardcore pvpers wanting to do this instead of arena, but i guess we'll see soon

then they need to focus on getting better, since pvp is supposed to be about competition, not farming gear there is one team on my server who took around 20 losses against us and now they have the advantage against one of our comps. it is possible and scold is right, only winning SHOULD be rewarded.

watch out for dat sorc reflect he won the rng battle apparently

this is how you fix ranked solo queue and reg wz reward ZERO ranked comms. a ranked solo queue is dumb when you're praying to the rng gods no dailies or weeklies for regs which reward ranked comms. no converting wz comms into ranked ranked comms only come from team arena people are only doing solo queue now until they get all the gear faster. then they will be back in regs to barely break 300k or whatever it is 99% of you do that is the only way to increase participation without cross server, but it makes too much sense so bioware won't do it.

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the mouse controls your movement and the aiming if you have dual monitors, you cursor goes off onto your second screen unless you're an rper or pver, you will stick to the ground game

lol. i haven't even watched the videos linked in the op. but you can go to mudclot's or insomniaq's stream and watch many different ones. the strat with double madness is to dot up everyone but the healer. you cc the healer. thanks for proving how bad and low rated you are. not responding to a no name anymore. stay small. oh, and keep crying so you get me buffed more. thanks.

everyone who was high rated before already knows how it will go down with current balance solo queue will have more higher rated pt/mara/sin/op than any other class snipers will be misrepresented in 4s because there are only a handful of great ones per server, if that the excellent sorcs and mercs will make it seem like those classes are fine (or in the case of solo queue, have incredibly good luck with teammates/opposition) the boards need to further be broken down by spec so that everyone can see who is performing and why

we've beaten every top team on pot5 as double madness, so i guess everyone is just bad on our server. btw, what's your rating? what was it before? never heard of you...you're just another low rated challenger

uhh we are on pot5? lol and don't panic runs double sage effectively on bastion as well as mvp doing sorc/sniper, sorc/merc, etc watch more streams. many other videos out there

are you retarded? mud and i were 6k+ as double madness for preseason we're already 1500 after day 1 as madness/pyro merc i think you got lost from your pve server forum

as long as they handle rewards by server, then it doesn't matter but let's think like bioware for a second... time to xfer to pve/rp servers

at this point i don't even care tbh. bring back instant whirlwind and more dot damage!!! buff sorcs!!!

so why are mud and i the only successful ones running it? or thurinlore when he subs in for me? why aren't you and some other sorc? what other "skillful" comps are you talking about?

smash is mostly bad in arena. there are a handful of smash players period that can put out the right kind of pressure. carnage rails ap tanks. get better at the game deception in dark charge is amazing as well. just not enough good sins that play the game. watch glory's stream with turrican to learn something. and lol @whoever thinks double ranged isn't hard. only two streams total i've seen of people doing it effectively