You're are right that an AFK player is worse than a quitter. A good deserter policy should solve both, assuming they can properly detect and apply it to someone who goes AFK out of the spawn.

Thanks for the suggestion. While I could have, I didn't. If this bothers you, that is too bad.

Maybe you'd be right, if everyone that played Warzones was only concerned with winning. Except some of us actually play for fun and this quitting thing is hampering that. Get back under your bridge.

There was a thread yesterday about problems with quitters ruining the chances at getting daily/weekly pvp quest rewards. A couple of funny guys chimed in with trolls saying "Maybe you're losing because of you and not the quitters". I am posting this to show how this problem impacts not only the people who stick it out but also the people on the other end. This happened in a game of Voidstar I played about 5 minutes ago. I have a level 22 Scoundrel and we started out defending. The imperials made it to the second set of doors a crossed the bridge. When it was round 2 and the rescrublic was attacking, as soon as we made it acrossed the bridge enough imps quit to trigger a shutdown sequence. There were maybe 4 or 5 left on the imperial team at this point. We almost got screwed on a shutdown sequence except that we got to the datacore with 2 seconds left on the WZ SDS, I estimate. Had the imps stayed, they might have held us but they decided that since round 2 attackers automatically win on a tie, it wasnt worth it. That is petty and it ruins the game and almost screwed over the team that actually played well. As far as I know if you get shut down there is no victory but please correct me if that is not the case. We need a deserter penalty at some point and it needs to be intelligent. If you get dropped from a wz, or your game crashes or you alt-f4 out, you should be put back into the WZ when you rejoin just like how it works in other mmo games. If you use the menus to leave or afk out of the game, you get a penalty for however long is necessary.

Do you people even think about the messages you post? This is such obvious trolling. Quitting is a serious problem in PVP and the OP is experiencing the worst results from it. I've seen similar behavior on my server but have never had to go so long with wins. If you stopped for a moment and thought about the impact of quitters you'd stop posting this kind of reply. Once one or two people leave, you've spent a fair amount of time with uneven teams without triggering the WZ shutdown sequence. The already well performing team gets a temporary advantage, kind of like a power play in hockey. Think before you post people. You're just lowering the quality of these forums when you engage in this kind of trolling, inadvertent or otherwise.

I have experienced this a handful of times. It is really frustrating and I would like to see Bioware do something about it. Other games have this figured out and the reasonable solution is something along these lines: If you quit the game via the menus, you get a deserter flag and cannot play a warzone for a certain amount of time. However if your game crashes or you alt-f4 out of the game, the server should know you were in a warzone and spawn you immediately back in the game, if it is currently in progress.

This is a pretty myopic view of what is going on. You can't say this is about fun because of how many different types of people are involved. What is fun to you might be really stupid to someone else. Obviously from your post, you don't like the warzones and want them to be something else you consider to be more "fun". Many people think it is great and play them every day over and over again, win or lose. Some people only can have fun if they win. Some people have fun with a challenge and enjoy a close game even if they lose. They say "life's not fair" but that really only applies to the real world. In a virtual world where there are rules you have to pick the most fair solution to this quitting problem. No reasonable person would side with the quitters on this one. You can infer all you like about fun and the quality of the game, but the fact you're here complaining about it says something. If it really sucked, you wouldn't be here.

For argument's sake, lets pretend you're right about the cascading AFK epidemic we're about to face. I give those "caving sissies" (your words) about 3 days before an AFK vote system is in place that lets the Ops Leader initiate a vote to remove players who are not playing. We probably should have that already. I highly doubt they would let such a childish response to a reasonable solution go unchecked. The thing about the rage quitters, complainers and babies who want every game to be a perfect win... If they actually stayed and played through the impossible games where you are destined to lose, they'd be better players.

What is the problem with valor not being pegged to your level below 50? Every PVP item I've seen that you get via commendations has a level requirement. It isn't like you're going to end up uber-powerful because you're gaming the pvp gear rewards as a lowbie. If you put in the work why shouldn't you be able to outpace your level? I think that valor should be unpegged to level and the cap should be be 49 if you are under level 50. Letting people use the lower bracket to get beyond 49 valor wouldn't be fair to those playing in the 50 bracket, imo. Valor matters for players < level 50 if you're serious about PVP and you wear the valor based titles on your character. My level 38 Powertech should have the Centurion title, except the game caps valor. Every warzone I play is 1200+ valor wasted. I took a lot of pride in getting the Gladiator title when I was level 33 and I've worn it since. While I absolutely have a blast playing warzones this cap is clouding that enjoyment. I feel as if now I am forced to go level my player in other activities before my contributions to warzones can be realized fully. If the valor cap was 49 for <50 level players it wouldn't bother me as much.