again? well as you can see from this guy im not the 1st so speak up . i have a sneaking suspicion the last person was verbally bashed away . well at least i know what abuse to expect

as expected ( litterally clalled it in the post ) - the second class system does not allow you access to another class while using a class the specifics are in the post ( i explained the difference between the two by set up to name ) so no they do not fit the titles they hold not in an an mmo context by any standard i can give you an example using another game - an archer becomes a bard they are still the same job both skill sets are available at once =1st job archer : second job bard the most reasonable of the comments was it was at least something _ the greatfull for anything approach i can at the very least respect it ... but a half a present isnt a present and without asking you will never see the other half of the present . lastly . if it offends your senses to be critical of a game that is not defense of the game thats perpetuation of stagnation . acting as if the devs can do no wrong or alil is plenty is exactly how people get bad products from name brands swtor is old and yet still strong it is because it still offeres alot of what current games do so players dont feel limited in playing asking for a thing thats common shouldnt be mes with dismissal and reframing of the subject . thank you for your time.

The Second class system announcement held alot of hopes and expectations. The system not meeting those is fine no company can be expected to be perfect and pleasing everyone is not possible.That said the second class system is a misleading feature in itself. It isnt so much a second class system as that would imply a second class to add to the 1st . It is an alternat class system witch would imply switching to a different option. - in any case it was and is a feature nobody likes or dislikes but everyone feels is unfinished and wasnt what was hoped for at all. people wanted to cross the skills do things like give a sorcerer class adequate saber combat or a saber class adequate force abilities . the way the system is now doesnt actually offer anything the game diddnt already have. As a result it feels incomplete and like a lie on its face . Now i know their are those who will attack anyone who has a critical view of the game and that the forums are full of those types and i fully expect them to come and add their offhanded underhanded insults rather then have a valid argument . That wont change the reality . and unless someone is brave enough to speak up the company will not take notice will not help or put in effort . So im saying it in hopes they complete the feature ( litterally just eraceing a path line of code and adding a new 1 to make the skills available ) its not hard or a dramatic rewrite not a rebuild not a whole content mass a simple adjustment is all it is . and with it you could truely craft the character loadout you want.

let me make this as clear as i can = literally everyone pulling a comment on the subject is looking at it like well it wasnt there when i started playing . news flash : the game was played by ppl b4 you realized it existed . it diddnt just pop out of nowhere and start making changes because you came there . Example : ffxiv ARR 1st launch = a player was able to use skills from any class/job they mastered on any other job they wished you had tanks that sould self heal or boost their own attack to hit like raid bosses - then the game changed and they have a set of 7 skills not attatched to any job that you can choose to add or not no more crossing class/jobs . to the people that came after they shout - you was never allowed to do that .... the reality .... you was.

that would explain alot but the problem is the bays i paid in game credits to get in the 1st place were taken away as well - moved or not that should have had empty bays not everything relegated to 1 bay. that is why i see an issue with that change it literally removed the effort to obtain the bays in the 1st place

you are arguing yourself heavily on something that isnt the subject = the base game chapters were in the chapter select to replay is the statement NOT the base game chapters were removed from the game - you are arguing an extreme never stated from onset that makes all the reply you put literally not on the same page .

if you already knew that then co-sighning someone saying EXPANSIONS in reguards to the chaper select was pointless.

its times like this i wish i had a screen shot of the chapter select screen before the change . it did . just because you hadnt seen it doesnt mean it never did . because it did . i used it myself and loved the feature dearly being an easy way to get over 40 before ever getting to dramond kass over having to low level grind on korroban and the same for the opposite faction. i'll put it this way - when i started playing wow it was wrath of the litch king and there were a multitude of things that once were that were no more before i started playing - it is varifylbly false for me to say never in regards to features i dont see now that were once available .

the base game is not an expansion that was the 1st advent of the chapter option and yes it was in the game since launch under legacy . after fallen empire released a few weeks later the older chapters were removed and only the expansion was present .

Example as a sith your arrival at korriban - the og chapter 1 the original start not knights of the fallen empire the hunt going into the outlander arc that is not the start.

Well i just looked and it starts with knights of the fallen empire not the original starting quest - the one you literally start when you create a character - that content used to be there it is not now .

The chapter menu used to replay the game no longer shows the eurly chapters like from the very start story wise. it would be nice if you took the time to repair that seeing as it once did b4 i dont see how it would take more then 5 mins to put it back .some of us really liked to play from the start through the new content making different or the same shoices without having to literally start over it was our new game plus heck the feature is so important even ffxiv added it .

thanks for clearing that up i had no idea about the trope im not much of a social media kind of girl i just have my few mmo's this formaly wow ffxiv and mhw and my few single player games other then that i mostly use the pc as a cable/streaming for movies thing. as for the get good thing when i play with ppl not gather craft sell i mainly run healer as sorcerer so if you needed one and i was on i wouldnt mind helping but im not a constant runner in that reguard so i dont know if that is something that applies or is part of the trope either way ty for clearing that up:)

Whats your point? i have 19 on one 4 on another and 1 new one i only do pvp things on on a euro server . the pvp character has little saves near nothing the others are two legacies that each have their own set of stuff so what exactly is your point they both had the same issues . i would report it as a bug if it was 1 legacy rather then make it a post ..... what happened to common sense . when someone puts a post with tons of details you only get ppl complaining their post is so long then if you put up something expecting ppl that actually play to use common sense to figure it out you get ppl with odd questions that mean literally nothing. come on it it was only 1 legacy 1 or 2 characters i would have reported it and waited not made a big post about it . this is more an issue of it was so much i wouldnt have been able to get it all back even if i tried because i wouldnt even remember every last item .i dont walk around with a printed crafting list and inventory list nobody does and that is what ppl act like i need to have .

And yes i have a brother but he doesnt play this he plays sports games if you must know but i have 0 understanding why that even matteres or was a statement/question. Also i have to wounder why people find it so attractive to be snithe on a post about basic issues if being someone not willing to find answers to a situation or at least be constructive about it is the goal then create a fight post or a roast post or something to congregate and be toxic among yourselves i mean people will walk in knowing what they are getting into . why go to someone having a real conversational issue and paint a target . is being a horrible human being that important.

1st i highly and i mean highly doubt anyone walks around with a list if every item in their storage so as i said in the post no its impossible to know every lost item however i can narrow it to this = i crafted quite a bit as such i had waiting schematics and materials collected to be used i purposly separated them because it made it easier to find given that i have more then 23 characters accross 3 servers. 2nd perks as in legacy unlocks i had nearly all of them and loged on to find i had none of them not missing 1 not missing 2 none.

Every time there is a major change in the game it seems like i only lose things . I'm not the only one either . items armor and other things get removed or phased out on mass and the player isnt reimbursed for it . and most times its so many things its impossible to keep track . i had multiple storage bays on one of my characters the other bays and everything in it = gone i had multiple mail messages with items in them = gone i had perks almost all of them i worked hard to afford them and the prices on them arent cheap at the high end = gone my crew skills have been reset and lowered. companions i once had i cant use anymore reminded of it every time i go to my base and see the holos like *** really . some of my characters have noticibly less progression as well . to top it all off i have been playing since it was possible to replay the older chapters via the chapter select menu going back to start my whole jorney again was always a great thing becuse i could fall in love with it all over again = gone then theres the costume issue with the cartel market removing outfits . it doesnt create the fear of missing out like they think it only makes people feel like spending money isnt really worth it because the stock will cycle and it wont matter . the items get market place expensive to the point only ppl doing the cash exploites left over can afford them . so theres no reason to try especially ince its timed on the market . to add insult to injury the devs say they listen but pull the same crap wow did and dont really pay attention its a 9-5 to them get in punch a card paid in 2 weeks no care . Meanwhile the player base is like why cant we pick the subclass then have both skill trees to choose skills from at the same time instead of swapping class with no overlap its literally not what we asked for for years waring the mask of what er asked for for years. their ate thousands of posts like this one and i dont expect them to give a damn its clear enough they dont . its depressing and signals the game is going to end soon.

- 1st i would like to ask they give the new hair options to zabrak as well - it is extremely limited and is long term un updated not to mention the current available hair for the race is ... bad to put it the nicest way possible ... - 2nd i suggest giving each subscribed account 1 free customization token for each existing character - adding those features in general WITHOUT allowing the constant player base access to it at least once to start not only degrades the importance of subscribing but only reaks of forcing people into needing to buy cartel coins to make changes available to anyone starting out now. you will make creating characters previously lesser valued. the new cosmetic additions are good the situation just needs to be handled correctly.

Some characters if spared and revisited should be aquirable . Meaning recruited not as active companions but as staff or relations options given their basic connections within the universe. Of course i mean those who do not directly effect story telling or later events Example : Marco Vizhen ( nar shadda world mission 1st chain) = characters like this who have tangible connections but no active role would make good staff characters ( ones that perform the off view actions the characters require for story telling ) Example searching for people and contacting others general info gathering . a romance option naturally should be available if allowed to grant the character importance . This is ment as a suggestion to give the atmosphere and universe at large a more alive feel to it there are plenty of other characters that also fit this as an option to recruit . i am fairly sure many players have their opinion on who . i suggest asking the player base then choosing of a list generated by the players opinions . thank you for your time

OK MY REPLY- it will seem simple after i say it lol - 1 console players do not have to pay extra to play a game purchased on the console ( playstation pluse for example only offeres mor content and server access to previously single player games ) 2 Tera = the company refused to adjust the game and add quality of life changes on pc and console alike = the community will not play if the devs treat the player like crap . ther games that have ported and expanded that have done just as i stated are = Dungions and dragons neverwinter Star Trek online Skyforge Warframe FFXIV . it just tells us the devs have to love what they do otherwise they will still fail. 3 funding= proper company investment to negociate the deal and aqusition of resources to make it happen _ examples are the previous games listed the coding is not different the security protocalls are that is the root of cross platforming . 4 the staffs ability : i wont insult them by intertaining the idea they arnt smart enough to copy paste insert console security protocalls to their servers or recode a launcher to match a console after ea has done it so much that people believe ea started out on console - i think the devs might not like that and its rude .

Relic coins ( name subject to change ) should be a non tradable subscriber only currency generated by completion of specific randomly chosen daily flash points. USES: this coin can be used to collect any armor piece no longer available for purchase or drop in collections, only after collecting a complete collection does an account wide non - stated set become available - the items are bound on pick up . SPECIFICS: items cycled through the store should have a time frame before becomming available to be bought with relic coins ( to preserve convienence ) the relic coins should have a 2 max for chest and legs 1 for every other piece with 1 as a flash point reward per run . GAME PLAY EFFECTS :this can be used to help new players have traffic for runs and offers everyone a way to collect the armor they want without effecting the gtn or cartel market. FURTHER POSITIVES: new players wont feel like they missed something with the opertunity to get the collections they want that passed the store , old players will have the goal to collect what they missed bringing them current to buyng from the store.

SWTOR is a rich deep game full of lore and as a star wars game stands head and shoulders above the rest that have come out before and after it. It truly lets you be the character you want to be . I love this game and every aspect of it . it is for the reason of wanting it to go on generational and to grow even bigger i suggest the following. This game should expand to consoles playstation & xbox to tap the console player base and grow as well as create more funding allowing them to do more and advance faster with all those on staff making more. Obviously i play on pc and sub to the game . and i'm aware of the biast between pc and console but as such i am also aware the console community is larger then the pc community when you combine consoles. As well as them dominating on platforms for e-sports - refusing to cross platform is willingly refusing a lot of money . I am also aware that for years ( and even some miss informed pc players now ) say the game cant be run with a console hardware or button amount restrictions - That's just completely untrue - More demanding games have been cross platformed already ( note : FFXIV & Star trek had button set ups that range over 20 not counting directions ) and the difference in view is nearly non existent . That's reality . Other then biast there is no reason to not expand the game to console . so to that - obviously those who don't want to cross platform are fine with the game stagnating and dyng slow on pc as it gets overshadowed by the millions of games that start on pc .Me personally i want to see this game get more success and grow to triple-A title status netting the company a mint and getting great expansions to come from it . If you really do love this game if you really do want the staff to keep working and have job security giving you endless content . Then you would not only agree but constantly tell them to try to make it happen .

SWTOR is a rich deep game full of lore and as a star wars game stands head and shoulders above the rest that have come out before and after it. It truly lets you be the character you want to be . I love this game and every aspect of it . it is for the reason of wanting it to go on generational and to grow even bigger i suggest the following. This game should expand to consoles playstation & xbox to tap the console player base and grow as well as create more funding allowing them to do more and advance faster with all those on staff making more. Obviously i play on pc and sub to the game . and i'm aware of the biast between pc and console but as such i am also aware the console community is larger then the pc community when you combine consoles. As well as them dominating on platforms for e-sports - refusing to cross platform is willingly refusing a lot of money . I am also aware that for years ( and even some miss informed pc players now ) say the game cant be run with a console hardware or button amount restrictions - That's just completely untrue - More demanding games have been cross platformed already ( note : FFXIV & Star trek had button set ups that range over 20 not counting directions ) and the difference in view is nearly non existent . That's reality . Other then biast there is no reason to not expand the game to console . so to that - obviously those who don't want to cross platform are fine with the game stagnating and dyng slow on pc as it gets overshadowed by the millions of games that start on pc .Me personally i want to see this game get more success and grow to triple-A title status netting the company a mint and getting great expansions to come from it . If you really do love this game if you really do want the staff to keep working and have job security giving you endless content . Then you would not only agree but constantly tell them to try to make it happen .