IIRC this way is kinda expensive. Cuz the dark projects are close to a million to make, or even more. And you have to hit conquest first and its BoP. But it takes just under 5 mil to get to 50 using purple 5s, especially if u use conversations and such to get a few levels. but yeah its waaaay faster than right clicking all day!

Thanks devs!

Has this been answered yet? Pls address devs! :)

Do we need to grind this now, or will all of this be wiped w/ expansion? Sry, still behind on details.

Lol, I enjoyed this! I'm back and excited for the expansion. But we need to kick up PVP again in lowbies. This will help a lot if ppl don't feel like leveling is worthless. Devs, we need to start getting the new XP at level one!

In the Clones Wars animated series, you see how Anakin really struggled with the Jedi code. He wouldn't ever give up on someone he cared for. No matter what. Was this right/wrong? Light/dark? WHy i really love the series. It's like on Esseles, Anakin would always have chosen to save the trapped engineers. Obi Wan? Prolly let's them day for the "greater good." Of course looking back it's like that's the wrong choice but at the time not so much. Does that make him evil, dark? I'm sure he's convinced thats love for greater cause. At least with Republic vs. Empire it's easier to see a big picture. Pure evil or pure good is a bit hoaky.

If it's just a single alt, you can add decorating. Not much else, but that's a lot!

That bastard Arcann lied to me?! I must have fluttered too much:o:o

True on the shoulders, but the imps at least got this - https://torf.mmo-fashion.com/force-invoker-imp/ While the pubs got this - https://torf.mmo-fashion.com/force-invoker-pub/ Advantage imps, lol Sensuous dress and xoxxan are my favs too, and darthomir shaman - but all on my pubbies <3

Thanks! Imp! (I kid, I kid )

I unsubbed I think before this went into effect. Seems like a great QOL change for alts though if it's how you describe! Gonna take me a whiel to get resituated tho. Out of curiosity, what is the fastest way now to get geared up and to level 300? I like all content about the same except Ops

I can see that I'm gonna be spending hours on this thread!

Just re-subbed after a long break! Looking forward to leveling a fresh trooper for the republic!

Yep. Only PVP that gets the "slap in the face" here.

(Slow slow clap). 10/10 on the sanctimony. Well done. People want to jump right into the next expansion and get geared up - GASP! The horror! They announce an expansion and some people have the nerve to KEEP PLAYING after already being fully geared under the silly assumption that with the next release there will be some conversion of current currency to whatever's next. Evil folks they are! What an unprecedented concept in this game - I mean that's never happened before! And all that previous play isn't "work" mind you. "Work" only begins with a fresh reset and wipe of previous play. While we're at it, why even care about gear right - we should all just play for "fun" (of course, only "fun" as defined by others.) And a subscription-based game no less, where items and currency accumulate over months/years. How evil of subs to try to tailor the game to the way they enjoy playing it - GASP! THOU MUST RE-GRIND! Subs should HAVE to endure the "time lag". Why should anyone who's spent hundreds of dollars over time for a game have any right to hope that their accumulated digital goods will either continue to have value or be exchanged for fair value? It's atrocious to even ask for this! So you BETTER NOT complain - haven't you read the TOS?! Just do what BW says and LIKE IT. Oh wait, it's only YOU who gets to huff and puff and rage and quit when things don't work the way YOU want. When it's anyone else, aspersions casted. That's the ultimate in hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.

We were saving them up for gearing in 5.0 since existing gear would be obsolete and our current chars were fully geared.

Let's start with this. No. You are wrong. The ships sold via the CM are "pre-mastered". That's not the same as "fully upgraded and unlocked". You injected that. But people who play GSF know the difference. "Mastered" here means the 10% bonus requisition earned after you've gotten one of each component fully upgraded in a ship. If you buy of the CM, you get the ship "pre-mastered" and don't have to grind for that 10% boost. See above. (it's because you can earn upgrades faster with pre-mastered ships than not, because you earn req faster). In GSF that has significance because there is no bolster. So the longer you have to grind for req, the longer you get facerolled. Unlike PvP and other content. This "convenience" factor becomes a BIG deal with getting ships upgraded quickly. If you unlock the CM ships and then a couple more cheap ones with fleet req, you get BOTH the 10% boost on CM ships AND you get req applied from weeklies and dailes to EVERY ship you own. You can then PAY to convert that req to fleet req and upgrade the ships you care about much faster. Again, no bolster, so this is a big "convenience". No, seriously, I lol'd (applied math background, GSF regular, but whatevs) Didn't bother the fact check the math above (even with your substantial QoL caveats), because as I said above, this is about getting req faster and avoiding facerolling sooner, which you concede here anyway. As for "cash cow", here is what I actually said: "Relative" , as in compared to other parts of the game where you don't have the CM so intertwined into gearing. I specifically said it's NOT P2W, but if you want to get up and running faster and suck less much sooner, i.e. "enjoy" you can pay to do that (in ways you cannot do in other parts of the game).

I have no idea why you have no sympathy for people (mistakenly or not) doing what they felt they were SUPPOSED to do given Eric's post. As a sub, it's your obligation to do what's best for your time and money investment and that's all everyone was trying to do - but again, you don't care. So let's just focus on the first part , something we all agree on. How is it okay to give 24 hours, on the forums no less (not in game, not by email, etc.) to basically wipe out people's earned currency? I've already learned the hard way that logging into forums is part of your "duties" as a sub to this game, or else be prepared for shenanigans with your sub. But many players do not (I don't visit forums for ANY other game btw). This STILL gets at the gist of the frustrations here - it seems very clear, without much doubt that for the PvPers who grinded out lots of comms, BW either doesn't give a flibbedy flib about them or is just inept at communication/customer service. So there are subs out there who logged in and saw months of work just evaporate and without even a (credible) option to get compensation. Even if everything else you try to defend is true, you have to concede this basic point.

GSF also prints money, relatively. Because: it's alt-specific, converting to fleet requisition requires CM coins, pre-mastered ships require CM to purchase for EACH alt and cost basically $18 each, and if you aren't willing to pony up early and often you will be pwn'd by the regulars for a LONG time before you are geared. It's not P2W per se but it is P2 enjoy. Making upgrades acquitable by regular currency undermines the relative cash cow.

Pretty much ^^

You won the thread!

You're either intellectually dishonest or trolling. No one was worried about putting all eggs in one basket. Without the announcement, there is literally no concern about this. And no one is talking about "diversification of an investment portfolio", lol. Strawman much? So I'm pretty sure you're just desperate at this point. Look at what was ACTUALLY said: So you read this as - "we better keep our stockpile of comms diversified on as many alts as possible"? You're being blatantly dishonest, or you cannot read. Sorry for your lack of comprehension.

This is how it worked in the past. Again, that was my aim in stacking comms. That said, I have no issue with not giving us gear or CXP with 5.0. That's simply not the issue for me at all. BW went in the complete opposite direction and not only didn't award 5.0 items, but it took away currency that had been played for and earned.

I'll try once more, then I give up. Why make ANY announcement about 24 hours at all? Why, if not to intentionally disrupt the status quo (which is leaving comms where they are)?

Nonsense. "Told in advance?" Most of us had our comms stacked WELL before any announcements. I was plannning on gearing multiple alts for 5.0 and deliberately wasn't gearing now. In the past, this was how it was done. BW then announces that comms are bye bye with 5.0. It's like wow, but I was coming around to accept even that. But then they announce that you have 24 hours to move comms to whatever toons you wish to have them on. Like a trusting dunce, I moved almost 200K comms to a main. Had I had more time to read threads and think of possible reasons for binding maybe I would have held off. But in a panic - induced by BW - I transferred. And mind you, this announcement was done BEFORE the conversion announcement (and with them full knowing they were going to covert and cap at 2M). So not only are my comms gonna be wasted on credits I don't need, MOST will be wasted since they are now bound and I can't even get credits for them. I know the argument is to just "buy stuff" with them but again, those who have comms like this already have the stuff we can buy with them. I've asked for a special vendor that offers some kind vanity/cosmetics from 5,0. Something, ANYTHING other than a middle finger. I really don't see how people even defend this. BW doesn't have to render months of subbed play useless here just to lure new subs. There are many other options they could have taken. But instead they took a deliberately and needlessly punitive approach to the existing hard(er) core players. Because I like the game and can afford to sub I likely won't be leaving. But it's just so unreal that a major corporation thinks it's okay to treat customers this way and assume that at no point (maybe not now,or even perhaps this game) it will hurt them.