isn't the "nerf operatives" meme a bit overused already?

Any chance you are one of those people who use breaker on Spike from Assassin? Or when Operative saps you and applies Volatile and two healing probes, then you decide to break? After that, they both can hard stun you for 4s and wreck you

So, you just casually throw everything you got to their defensives, which basically works only when damaged. Then you complain about them. I'll quote my man Obi Wan here: "You have done that yourself!" Also, like you said, fotm re rollers. The thing is, re rollers almost always suck, so they aren't gonna be a problem

tbh, i don't think that's any kind of problem. But what i would like to see is mando net getting fixed. Always a pleasure to get netted through immunity roll. Meanwhile mercs can't do that. inb4 both merc and mandos are able to do that

Let me guess, you the sorc who doesn't bother to bubble?

http://imgur.com/tKPt2EM this is what i managed in my first match in 5.0 on sin (midbies). Without the phantom stride reset, so i guess there is pretty nice dps potential.

The thing is, i and many others want to "dominate" by being better than others. Not by having better gear. Gear shouldn't matter at all in PvP, only player skill.

Maybe they put the gear on after leaving spawn? or Since you took that much damage, did they take any? Ofc, surviving just by not taking damage doesn't explain them doing damage.

If this is true, i'll cry. I don't think i have even 900hours played on my main

Problem is, this would only work if every single player would do this. And they won't. And even if they did, what about new players/characters ? So, nah, not happening

Y'all sweating too much about operatives. Sure, they can now troll more with knockback. But they still don't have good dps. And also the fact that most operatives are bads (probs got owned by good operatives and thought the class is op = rolled it) and can be killed easily after they insta-double-roll. Ofc they are the strongest 1v1 class, but thats's all

Yeah, ofc you don't need to post anything nor care what i think (i wouldn't probs care either tbh) I just thought it'd be nice to see since it's so easy that you "eat them for breakfast"

(im assuming you mean with your jugg) Unless there is a HUGE skill cap, i really have to doubt these tbh. Wouldn't mind you posting some proof Until you do that (assuming never) Gonna have to agree with Nightrain on this one.

I still haven't understand the whole DvL bull**** (and the double xp that is going atm), like, was there a point to it or did i just simply miss something? BW: "Go roll alt of every class" Me: "gg ez" BW: "Done it? Great. Now we will be droppin' this lit af 5.0 with some rng on the rng. From those ~30 characters you now have, pick only one of them for 5.0 to gear (if you are in favor of rng gods, you might manage to gear it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ), rest are useless and you might aswell delete them" Me: "noice" BW: "Oh, another thing, assassins are too mobile, we are taking phase walk away"

Deception sin can win 1v1's against concealment operatives but there is only two ways. 1.Player skill being higher (lot of not-so-good operatives around) 2.Managing to put so much pressure on the operative that they can't heal. If the operative can heal, you'll most likely lose. And if deception sin and concealment operative goes just full dps face to face, the sin will most likely win. As for Hatred and tank sin, i think they will lose everytime against concealment @RodneyMcNeely asking about sin vs operatives

Well, if using vendors is too hard and confusing (for some people apparently), what can you expect

So, the goal for 5.0 was to make assassins useless? Guess i'll need to delete my sin and roll a sorc or merc

Where does this happen? I want to be part of it too. I mean, i play in premades about 85% of the time, but it's just a bunch of guildies. Often just four dps's grouped together and never in voice comm. (atleast i've never used) But whaaaat preplanned objectives? Really? Like the premades you face have some sort of tactic for every map and they win it everytime with that same tactic? Then it's just a matter of l2p. Don't get me wrong, i have some "tactics" too. For example, my teammate has ball in huttball. I don't just stand behind him doing dps to some unnecessary target, i run ahead and wait for pass. It's as simple as that. You don't need premade or "tactics" for winning. All you need is players who play objectives. Also, don't forget, you can just form a premade of your own.

Scrapper is the spec (=concealment) not advanced class And since the op is speaking about scrapper, im assuming it's just for pvp. I'd go with 0 - 411(3 enhachements) alacrity. Imo there is definitely no reason to go over 411. I usually run 274(2 enhachements)

You'll most likely need to form a premade if you play objectives. I've noticed that pretty much every match i que solo, it's me alone (or sometimes some other guy) playing obj. Rest of the team is just deathmatching. When im in premade, atleast it's min. four people playing objectives. And that four is usually enough to carry the remaining four (obj. wise atleast)

Equally skilled operative vs assassin, (scoundrel vs shadow), the operative should win most of the time. Sure assassins can win too, but that would require the sin to play perfect or the operative to mess up. Also, as operative you can still recover if you mess up. If you are interested, i'd suggest for you to check out URC's. They are 1v1 Tournaments held by Snave mostly on TRE That's the latest one (7th), held two months ago. In that Operative won stealth bracket and the whole tournament. This is 6th. In this Assassin managed to win stealth bracket, but as you'll see, it is certainly harder. Also the next one (8th) will be held in Saturday 12th Nov 2016 - 7pm GMT. Snave will be streaming it at http://www.hitbox.tv/snave dat cheeky promote tho You could check that out and see classes in action. There is also ranged and melee bracket, so you'll see a lot more than just assassins and operatives.

kek let me guess, some jugg reflected your ambush? But seriously though, snipers are just fine atm. ^^ all of this

What do you mean it's buggy? http://imgur.com/nGVSY83 http://imgur.com/w2aS3R4 http://imgur.com/CneivsM seriously tho, holotraverse needs to be fixed