Sure, after reading your posting in pretty much every thread in existence I guess I've learn something to just play along and agree with everything BW did. No point voicing concern, since you and your posse will pretty much derailed every thread that have any amount of criticism toward the company.

I have to agree to BuriDogshin and Infernixx over this issue. I'll support whatever decision Bioware made and will call out anyone who disagree with Bioware.

^^^^^ Tried really hard to derail his own topic. must be a hard habit to break I guess.

Yeah, whatever dude. Seem to me IMO you are doing pretty much just as bad as those trolls and trying to justified whatever your action is by giving analogies, saying the other side start the BS or whatever. I guess I'll just be a forum lurker from now on, maybe have a nice giggle when s* hit the fan in certain thread, watching people duke it out like their life depends on it.

Like I said in this thread before, shouldn't the issue in question be the point the discussion instead of whether the issue is small/big, or exagerated by the OP etc. But again like you told me before, I'm new here. So, whatever dude.

Well my bad about that, I apologize. But doean't that mean it's the whole western world now which make it a little more scarier?

Dude, when you have to stalk people post history and paste it in a different thread, then you are making this thing like a full time job and you took whateveer happen in this forum waaaaaaay too serious. Yes, he might been rude in another post, but when you have to go way back and pasting whatever he's saying there over here... Dang, you Americans really freak me out.

If I remember correctly there a few thread started that sound like a 'defenders bait' (pretty much like a trool bait) but sounded like wanting to get a reaction from the 'trolls' in the past weeks. Really fishy. Well then that makes you no better than this so called 'trolls' IMHO. Since you pretty much stoop to their level that you so much despise.

That can be said for "people of both side" of the fence. Well I guess I will never understand these kind of behaviors (again, coming from different culture); 'Trolls' trolling or 'Defenders' flaming and both did it with so much devotion as if is a full time job and got nothing better to do with their time. To each their own i guess, Whatever make both side happy. I'm off to watch some WC soccer match.

But shouldn't the bug in question be the point of discussion instead of the way the OP of said thread conveys it? Sure he might be acting like most of the users call 'entitled' or whatever, but wouldn't it better to discuss that said bug instead of flaming the thread to death and the developers wont even aware of the bug in question?

Well I guess I can agree on most of your post except for the last paragraph. Since for me game reviewers are the same as users. Both are gamers who play that particular game. As of saying users who dont like the game, I pretty much sure they all leaved already and dont bother to post here on the forum at all. Because from what I saw, most complaints or critism come from different users, and I honestly believe that most of these complaint come out of frustuation; game state, bugs etc but these people still love the game and hope for the game to be better in the future. But the one I always see been defending it are pretty much the same bunch of people. And make it like a full time job policing the forum and flaming any form of critism. Which for me is still silly (and again, I'm from a different culture).

I can't point to the specific thread but it happen in some of the thread in the CS forum. And it really left a bad taste in me when i first come into the forum. And as of people acting in bad manner, the obvious trolls sure, we can flame them to death or we could just ignore his/her trollbait. But on critism, I really dont see why it is the users job to fend of critism. Isn't that the developers/publisher job? I'm from a different culture so I apologize if I dont understand how stuff works over there. Heck, even the term trolls or fanboys don't even exist here where I live. But I really find it's silly when people get upset of people criticizing the GAME, and all of them up in arms defending it as if people are insulting their belief/religion etc. And again I apologize in advance because from a different culture I dont know how stuff work over there.

Wow! I have to agree with you.

Kantaso, I'm a new player as well, on;ly here since May, and a month ago, I pretty much has the same feeling like you wondering why all the negative talk about this game and the community (on another forum, webpage etc). And for the first month I just played the game and enjoying it. I dont even bother to visit the official forum. Then patch 2.8 hit, I have a few problems with logging in lag and stuff, so I visit here, and my impression quickly change since all i see is every form of critism no matter how mild are pretty much derailed by the same group of users. Some people are having trouble to log in and they pretty much being told to leave the game by some of the users. And since then, I kinda understand why people outside this game are always making fun of SWTOR community.

I wasn't aware of the fact that it wasn't produced since last 2 years, since I've only started playing since May 2014. They sell the digital code though, might be from 2 years ago that they failed to sell.

Dude, u can PM me and i can give u a link for cheap gamecard from a Malaysian gamestore. It sell at about 13 USD for 60 days, nobody is playing this game here, so the gamestore has to give a huge discount to the gamecard since nobody want em. Other MMO gamecard are selling at normal price though.

Grats for 'winning' the argument, you must be so proud of yourself.

I still can't see the connection between my first impression of the forum and an unknown guy working in technology and a broken gas nozzle. I guess I am the idiot customer here.

1. Story - Since most of above posters have explained this, i guess i'll just skip it. 2. Voice Acting - As Above 3. Groupmate's Quest on our Minimap - this is for me the most helpful feature in the game. having our groupmate's quest locations automatically showned on our minimap. Easy for group to do quest together. Granted I havent played much MMO's out there, but the one that I played, WoW; dont have this features so kudos to BW.

That pretty much sums up my first impression when i jumped into the forum back in May.

Random 3 from the first page. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=749229 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=749230 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=748543

why do defenders need to come in here and defend? Why can't we discuss our concerns rationally and constructively in peace without people coming in here just to defend and derail our rational discussions with conjecture and unsubstantiated "facts'?

Not censored. Just let them whine, the whiners can at least vent something, maybe they will feel better after that. Those who doesn't have any problems can just go on and play the game, instead of derailing every whiners threads. This is my second month here and so far I haven't read any of these 'trolls' or 'whiners' attacking threads that praised the game.

May the forum users just let the whiners whine in peace, please? No need to derailed whiners threads,

I DEMAND that whiners be allowed to whine in peace.