Freezing Force is overtuned, no questions asked. However, it really helps Focus to pull the numbers.

Does it mean that you gonna nerf Focus spec aswell through Freezing Force?

AdjeYo summed up very good the pros of Concentration (that are, the pros of Sentinel over Guardian) and I agree with him. However, I recently played my Focus Guardian abit, and I have to admit it feels much more comfortable to me than Concentration. It is less resource starved, and Combat Focus is much better than Zen, it just have a CD instead of building it with attacks, and it means you have a much easier time to catch up after a downtime (and I'd think you can also hit harder by basically reopening after a downtime versus the careful judgment of "how many Zen I have and which part of the rotation shall I begin" in the case of Conc.). Oh and it now also has better AoE due to Chilling Scream.

For some reason i only had vigilance/vengeance in mind...my bad. And even for vigilance i'm not so convinced anymore that freezing force is only 7th in damage/activation. Although it's focus cost still stands. Just a random thought, is freezing force affected by all the passives that buff burns (or bleeds for the darkside)? Also for focus/rage the average damage of a skill depends on rotation. Finally how you got average damage numbers for any spec from bant's sheet? i didn't find it last time i tried

Yes, it does decent damage, but in a single target situation there're 6 other ability that does better damage. That makes it competing with your focus generating abilities, while costing 2 focus. So I simply found that it has only situational use, and if I use it too much, I would end up not having enough focus for my strongest moves. Likely in an AoE situation it climbs higher on prio list, but I haven't thought about exactly how much.

I only played vigilance so far, but now that focus theoretically no longer sucks, I want to try it. What rotation is used by focus in 5.0? I know there exist 4.0 ones, are they still apply? I'm only interested in pve.

I thought they wanted to get rid of hybrids

I'd put vigilance higher, say the last among sustained melee. And my private opinion is, that burst specs aren't that bursty (anymore) to justify the principle to put sustained ranged over melee burst. Nonetheless, it would be still better by lightyears than anything BW came up.

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thats what u see from the developers all day today